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SMITH |
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THE
SMITH FAMILY, PRITTLEWELL, ESSEX and DEPTFORD, KENT including
THE BURGESS FAMILY, DEPTFORD,
KENT THE
(GEORGE) WILLIAMS FAMILY,
PADDINGTON, MIDDLESEX THE (CHARLES EDWARD) WILLIAMS FAMILY, BRISTOL,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE THE (WILLIAM FREDERICK) WILLIAMS FAMILY, STEPNEY, MIDDLESEX and SHERBORNE, DORSET THE READ FAMILY, FOREST
GATE, ESSEX THE WILLMORE FAMILY,
BEXLEYHEATH, KENT THE OGILVIE FAMILY, SOUTHAMPTON, HANTS THE VIZARD FAMILY, BRISTOL
GLOS THE ATKINS FAMILY, KINSON,
DORSET THE SYMONS FAMILY, BROMLEY, KENT |
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GENERATIONS ARE NUMBERED FROM THE FIRST TRACED
ANCESTOR, JOHN SMITH I (about 1757-1801), AND HAVE THE FOLLOWING BACKGROUND COLOUR: |
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MEMBERS OF THE SMITH
AND CONNECTED FAMILIES BOUND [APPRENTICED] TO THE COMPANY OF WATERMEN &
LIGHTERMEN OF THE RIVER THAMESFINDMYPAST/THAMES WATERMEN &
LIGHTERMEN NOTES: ● no dates of birth are given ●
the figures in the AGE column are calculated from the date of birth of the
relative member of the family, assuming this is the same person ●
no records of Smith apprentices from the next generation can be found (Smith
is of course a very common names, so individuals are hard to find with any
certainty) ●
there were of course few sons in the next generation – many more daughters –
and perhaps by this time they were better off and living more from the coal
business |
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NAME (IN ORDER OF AGE) |
FROM |
BOUND |
AGE |
AT |
FREED |
MASTER |
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WILLIAM SMITH |
GREENWICH |
30 APR 1801 |
12 |
GREENWICH |
19 MAY 1808 |
MATTHEW BURGES [sic] |
this is most likely William Smith I, because: ● the date and age are realistic ● although there are of course several
William Smiths listed, this the only one apprenticed in the
Greenwich/Deptford area when he would have been at a "reasonable"
age ● the master's name, Matthew Burges[s] is important, as William's
eldest daughter Elizabeth Ann married a James MATTHEW Burgess ● James Matthew Burgess was also apprenticed as a waterman in
1821, again to a Matthew Burgess, so there is a good chance that Matthew
Burgess and James Matthew Burgess, both watermen, are related |
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JAMES THOMAS SMITH |
DEPTFORD |
6 JAN 1825 |
14 |
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10 MAY 1832 |
WILLIAM SMITH |
presumably these are
William I’s sons, the first two of whom were apprenticed to William himself,
and the youngest one to his elder brother |
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WILLIAM HENRY SMITH |
DEPTFORD |
10 DEC 1829 |
14 |
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11 JAN 1838 |
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HENRY JAMES SMITH |
DEPTFORD |
12 JUL 1832 |
14 |
- |
11 FEB 1841 |
JAMES THOMAS SMITH |
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CONNECTED FAMILY |
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JAMES MATTHEW BURGESS |
GREENWICH |
15 NOV 1821 |
14 |
GREENWICH |
11 DEC 1828 |
MATTHEW BURGESS |
presumably William’s
future son-in-law, apprenticed to the same man (his father?) as William was |
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JOHN SMITH I |
GENERATION 1 |
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born
about 1757, Prittlewell, Essex….. / about 1760DEATH BMD |
buried
30 SEP 1801, St Mary The Virgin,
Prittlewell, Essex, age 41BMD |
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married
3 JAN 1782, Prittlewell, Essex, ELIZABETH
STRUTTBMD |
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born
about 1761, Prittlewell, Essex….. |
died
? |
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no suitable baptism for John Smith can be found in Prittlewell, Essex in the
period 1757-60 ●
nothing more is known about him ●
both John and Eliabaeth were shown as “of this parish” in their marriage
record” ●
obviously, with such a common name, any research is very difficult |
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no suitable baptism for Elizabeth Strutt can be found in Prittlewell, Essex
in the period about 1761 ●
nothing more is known about her |
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CHILDREN |
BAPTIZED |
DIED |
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SARAH
SMITH |
4 JAN 1782 |
St Mary The Virgin, Prittlewell, EssexBMD |
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after
1851? |
SEE BELOW |
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CATHERINE
SMITH |
18 OCT 1783 |
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1821,
Prittlewell, Essex, age about 38 |
● one internet source gives
Catherine’s mother’s name as Charlotte, and also another daughter, also named
Charlotte, baptized in 1783, no mother’s name given ● the Essex County Parish Records
site however shows Catherine’s mother as Elizabeth ● so perhaps some confusion has
arisen with the name Charlotte ● SEE BELOW |
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JOHN
SMITH II |
5 MAR 1785 |
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? |
nothing more
is known about him |
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JAMES
SMITH |
31 MAY 1789 |
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after
1861 / Q2 1870?, Billericay, Essex R/D, age about 81? |
SEE
BELOW |
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born
about 1787, Prittlewell, Essex CENSUS,, baptized 31 MAY
1789 |
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23
MAR 1863, Deptford, KentCERT, age 76 [died of influenza, chronic
bronchitis] WILL |
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THOMAS
SMITH |
11 MAY 1794 |
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? |
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nothing
more is known about them |
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infant |
born
1792?REFERRED TO AS “INFANT”, AND PRESUMABLY NOT BAPTIZED |
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buried
8 APR 1792 |
St
Mary The Virgin, Prittlewell, EssexBMD |
● died of smallpoxFAM |
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infant |
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buried
23 MAY 1792 |
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OTHERS? |
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JOHN SMITH I’s CHILDREN |
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SARAH SMITH |
GENERATION 2 |
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baptized 4
JAN 1782, St Mary The Virgin, Prittlewell, EssexBMD |
died
after 1851? |
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married EDWARD? GREEN |
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born Prittlewell, Essex? |
died
after 1851? |
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nothing
more is known about Edward Green |
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CHILDREN? |
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CATHERINE SMITH |
GENERATION 2 |
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baptized 18
OCT 1783, St Mary The Virgin, Prittlewell, EssexBMD |
1821,
Prittlewell, Essex, age about 38 |
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married 1 NOV 1802,
Prittlewell, Essex, JAMES SAMMS |
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born about
1780, Essex |
died
Q2 1855, Rochford, Essex R/D, age about 75 |
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nothing more is
known about James Samms |
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CHILDREN: SEE SAMMS FAMILY |
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JAMES SMITH |
GENERATION 2 |
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baptized 31
MAY 1789, St Mary The Virgin, Prittlewell, EssexBMD |
died
after 1861 / Q2 1870?, Billericay, Essex R/D, age about 81? |
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married
ANN HICKFORD, daughter of –
Hickford and Ann -- |
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born about
1801, Purleigh, Essex |
died
after 1861 / Q2 1868?, Billericay, Essex R/D, age about 67? |
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nothing
more is known about Ann Hickford |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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MARY
SMITH |
about
1824, EssexCENSUS |
? |
nothing
more is known about them |
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WILLIAM
SMITH III |
about 1827,
Rochford, Essex |
? |
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CAROLINE
SMITH |
about
1828, EssexCENSUS |
? |
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HENRY
SMITH |
about 1838,
Purleigh, Essex |
? |
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….. |
? |
? |
SEE
BELOW |
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OTHERS? |
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GENERATION 2 |
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born
about 1787, Prittlewell, EssexCENSUS,, baptized 31 MAY
1789, St Mary The Virgin, Prittlewell, EssexBMD |
© |
died
23 MAR 1863, Deptford, KentCERT, age 76 [died of influenza,
chronic bronchitis] WILL |
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married
ELIZABETH (MORRIS?) |
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born about
1786, not in Kent?CENSUS |
died
1841~1851CENSUS |
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●
William moved to the Greenwich area, Kent, sometime before 1808/10, and
apparently became a successful business man (coal dealer?) ●
no suitable marriage for William can be found in either the Prittlewell,
Essex or Greenwich, Kent area in the period 1808-10 ●
he could not writeWILL |
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nothing more is known about Elizabeth (Morris?) ●
the name Morris is only the author's guess, but it comes up several times in
following generations |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
BAPTIZED |
DIED |
NOTES |
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WILLIAM SMITH II |
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31 MAR 1808,
Greenwich, Kent |
? |
● unclear
if he was William’s son ● nothing
more is known about him |
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JAMES THOMAS SMITH |
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3
DEC 1810FAM, Greenwich, KentCENSUS |
3
FEB 1811 |
St
Alphage, Greenwich, KentFAM |
© |
21
OCT 1904, Eltham, KentCERT, age 93, buried 29 OCT 1904, Norwood Cemetery, SurreyCERT
[died of chronic enlargement of the prostate, cardiac failure] WILL |
SEE
BELOW |
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ELIZABETH ANN SMITH |
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15
SEP 1812FAM, Woolwich / Charlton, KentCENSUS |
20
DEC 1812 |
22
OCT 1884, Deptford, KentWILL, age 72 WILL |
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GEORGE THOMAS SMITH |
© |
22
OCT 1814 |
17
DEC 1814 |
St
Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. KentCERT |
? |
nothing more is known about him |
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WILLIAM HENRY SMITH |
3
NOV 1815CERT, Woolwich, KentCENSUS |
26
NOV 1815 |
11
DEC 1892, Ventnor, Isle of Wight, HantsWILL, age 77
WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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HENRY JAMES SMITH |
13
MAR 1818CERT, Woolwich, KentCENSUS |
5
APR 1818 |
7
DEC 1903, Bexleyheath, KentWILL, age 85 WILL |
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ANN FRANCES SMITH |
19
APR 1820CERT, Woolwich, KentCENSUS |
10
MAY 1820 |
5
FEB 1876, Lee, KentCERT, age 55, buried
Nunhead, Surrey
[died of cancer of the uterus] WILL |
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SARAH MORRIS SMITH |
9
APR 1824CERT, Deptford, KentCENSUS |
4
JUL 1824, St Paul, Deptford, KentCERT |
4
FEB 1874, Greenwich, Kent R/D, age 49,
buried Nunhead, Surrey, 1874 FEB 12 |
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OTHERS? |
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JAMES SMITH’s
CHILDREN |
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..... SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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died
? |
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BORN |
DIED |
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SARAH
ANN SMITH |
about 1849, ….. / Bowes
Gifford, Essex |
? |
● they did not necessarily have
the same parents ● nothing more is known
about them |
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JOHN
WILLIAM SMITH |
1851, Bowes Gifford, Essex |
? |
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OTHERS? |
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WILLIAM SMITH I’s CHILDREN |
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JAMES THOMAS SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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born
3 DEC 1810FAM, Greenwich, KentCENSUS, baptized 3 FEB 1811,
St Alphage, Greenwich, KentFAM |
© |
died
21 OCT 1904, Eltham, KentCERT, age 93, buried 29 OCT 1904, Norwood Cemetery, SurreyCERT
[died of chronic enlargement of the prostate, cardiac failure] WILL |
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married
14 FEB 1832, St. Alphege, Greenwich, Kent, JANE ANN CHIVERSCERT, daughter of John Chivers,
bricklayer, and Kitty -- |
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baptized
2 JAN 1815, St. James, Westminster, Middx |
© |
died
26 OCT 1908, Eltham, KentNEWSPAPER, age 93, buried 2 NOV 1908, Norwood Cemetery,
SurreyCERT WILL |
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i |
James Thomas bought the Fairby estate, in
Hartley, Kent (http://www.hartley-kent.org.uk/), from the Treadwell
family in the
middle of the 19th century – a little later he also purchased the lands
owned by James Page, John Swaisland and Wm. Masters Smith, in all about 340
acres - but sold it on 25 March 1899 to Mr. A. E. Dobbs (according to one source), who
transferred it to Sir James Timmins Chance (who bought it direct, according
to the conveyance), one of the owners of the Smethwick glass firm – as James Thomas’ house in Eltham, Kent, was also
called Fairby House, perhaps he named it after his country estate |
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the address of Fairby House is given in the THE TIMES – 9 JAN 1909 – THE ESTATE MARKET article below as 79 ELTHAM
ROAD – it has not been possible to find 79 Eltham Road on Google - there is a
Riverston School at nos. 63-9, comprising some what look like old large
houses, but this is as near as possible it is to get – there are probably
modern houses there today – there is however a Fairby Road on the north side
of Eltham Road, so perhaps this is
where Fairby House stood |
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GRAVESEND JOURNAL - 17
MAR 1869 Incendarism - Sunday 7th March at 2 o'clock. Stack fire at Fairly [sic].
Farm belonging to Mr Smith. Large wheat stack destroyed in spite of efforts
of Dartford Fire Brigade. Insured with Kent Fire Office. Reward of £25
offered for information leading to conviction of arsonist. |
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THE TIMES – 15 FEB 1892
– MARRIAGES On the 14th Feb., 1832, at St.
Alphege Church, Greenwich, by the Rev. T. S. Masters, JAMES THOS. SMITH to
JANE ANN CHIVERS, of Fairby House, Eltham-road, Lee- (Sixtieth anniversary) |
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THE TIMES – 15 FEB 1904 LONGEVITY.- Mr. J. E. Durham, a nephew of Mr.
and Mrs. Smith, writes from Fairby-house, Eltham-road, Lee, S.E., under date
February 11-“You MAY be interested to know that Mr. and Mrs. J. T. Smith will
pass their 72nd wedding day on the 14th day of this
month, next Sunday. The venerable couple were married at St. Alphege’s
Church, Greenwich, in 1832, by the Rev. John Masters, who died at the age of
97, three years ago, at Bennett-park, Blackheath village. Mr. Smith was 93
December 3 last, 1903. Mrs. Smith was 89 this last 2nd of January,
1904. The former was born 1810 and the latter 1815.” |
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THE TIMES – 27 OCT
1908 – DEATHS SMITH.-on
the 26th Oct., at Fairby House, Eltham-road, Lee, S.E., JANE ANN
SMITH, widow of the late James Thomas Smith, in her 94th year. |
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THE TIMES – 9 JAN
1909 – THE ESTATE MARKET An
“upset price” of £1,000 has been fixed by Messrs. Dyer, Son, and Hilton, for
the long leasehold detached residence at Blackheath known as Fairby House, 79
Eltham-road, which they will offer on the premises on Tuesday, January, 19th. |
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CHILDREN: none (surviving) |
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ELIZABETH ANN SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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born
15 SEP 1812FAM, Woolwich/Charlton, KentCENSUS, baptized
20 DEC 1812, St Alphage, Greenwich, KentFAM |
died
22 OCT 1884, Deptford, KentWILL, age 72 WILL |
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married
17 JUL 1831, St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, JAMES MATTHEW BURGESSCERT |
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born
17 NOV 1807, Greenwich, Kent |
died
24 MAR 1852, Deptford, Kent, age 44 |
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WILLIAM HENRY SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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born
3 NOV 1815CERT, Woolwich, KentCENSUS, baptized 26 NOV 1815,
St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. KentCERT |
died
11 DEC 1892, Ventnor, Isle of Wight, HantsWILL, age 77
WILL |
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married
(1?) 23 JUL 1837, St. Mary, Lewisham, Kent, ELIZABETH SUSANNA(H) WOODGATE, daughter of William Woodgate,
plumber, and Sarah -- |
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born 25 NOV 1818,
Lewisham, Kent |
died Q2 1880,
Dartford, Kent R/D, age about 61?BMD |
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married (2?) ELIZABETH VAKE?, daughter of – Vake
and Elizabeth -- |
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born about 1843,
Newport, Isle of Wight, Hants |
died
31 AUG 1898, Ventnor, Isle of Wight, HantsWILL, age about 55 WILL |
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● William Henry moved
to the Isle of Wight 1881~91CENSUS |
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● nothing more is
known about Elizabeth Susanna(h) Woodgate |
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in the 1881 census, an Elizabeth Vake, mother in law, born in the Isle
of Wight, was living with William Henry, leaving us to believe his 2nd
wife’s name was Elizabeth Vake, although no marriage can be found ●
probate for her will was granted to Elizabeth Ann Durham Knott,
William Henry’s niece ● nothing more is
known about her |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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WILLIAM JAMES SMITH |
© |
8 APR 1838,
Greenwich, Kent R/D |
? |
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nothing more is known about him ●
an Islington family in the 1871-1911 census for William J. Smith, born in
Deptford about 1841, is that of a William John Smith |
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OTHERS? ● possibly no surviving
children, as probate for William Henry’s 2?nd wife’s
will was granted to Elizabeth Ann Durham Knott, his niece |
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HENRY JAMES SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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born
13 MAR 1818CERT, Woolwich, KentCENSUS, baptized 5 APR 1818,
St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. KentCERT |
died
7 DEC 1903, Bexleyheath, KentWILL, age 85 WILL |
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married
18 MAY 1840, St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, MARY ANN GILL RICHARDS, daughter of William Joseph Richards,
licensed victuallerCERT, and Sarah -- |
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born about 1822,
Deptford, KentCENSUS |
died Q1 1884, Dartford, Kent
R/D, age about 62?BMD |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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ELIZABETH SARAH
SMITH |
© |
18 JAN 1842CERT,
Peckham, SurreyCENSUS |
? |
SEE
BELOW |
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ROSA MORRIS SMITH |
27
JUN? 1843, Deptford, Kent |
23 DEC 1925, Upton Manor, EssexWILL,
age 82 WILL |
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MARY ANN WOODGATE
SMITH |
9
MAY 1846CERT, Deptford, KentCENSUS |
possibly 1901~4? |
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GEORGI(A)NA EMMA SMITH |
10
DEC 1847, Deptford, Kent |
25
OCT 1928, Bristol, GlosWILL, age 80, buried
29 OCT 1928, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD WILL |
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LOUISA JANE SMITH |
6 AUG 1850, Limehouse, Middx |
10 NOV 1941, Kinson, DorsetWILL,
age 91, buried St Mary, Longfleet, DorsetBMD WILL |
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JANE ANN SMITH |
9 AUG 1852, Limehouse / Mile End, Middx |
7 JAN 1933, Hockley, EssexWILL,
age 80 WILL |
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JAMES HENRY SMITH |
19 APR 1854,
Mile End, Middx |
? |
nothing more
is known about him |
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WILLIAM VICTOR SMITH |
24 MAY 1856,
Mile End, Middx |
2
DEC 1925, Dulwich Hill, New South Wales, Australia, age 69, buried Rookwood
Roman Catholic Cemetery, New South Wales, AustraliaAUSTRALIA CEMETERY
INDEX |
SEE
BELOW |
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HENRIETTA JOSEPHINE
SMITH |
14 AUG 1858,
Bow / Mile End, Middx |
5
FEB 1928, Catford, KentWILL, age 69 WILL |
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CHARLES GEORGE SMITH |
22 FEB 1860,
Limehouse, Middx |
? |
nothing more
is known about him |
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EMMALINE JESSIE SMITH |
27 SEP 1863,
Limehouse, Middx |
22
JUL 1933, Bexleyheath, KentWILL, age 69 WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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HENRY
JAMES SMITH’s PHANTOM DAUGHTERS ● it was previously thought that
Henry James had 2 daughters, who were only mentioned in wills, and about whom
nothing else was known, “Mary” and “Elizabeth” ● by a process of elimination, it
would appear that they must in fact be Mary Ann Woodgate Smith [Makey] and
Elizabeth Sarah Smith [Payne] ● unfortunately Henry James himself
in his will does not list his daughters individually, just mentioning his son
William Victor and “all my children” |
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“MARY” ●
a “Mary”, daughter of Henry James Smith, is mentioned in a codicil to his
brother James Thomas Smith's will, dated 17 DEC 1901 ●
he mentions “seven daughters … now living in England” in the following
order, which is not unfortunately the order of birth: Jane (Jane Ann),
Emeline [sic] (Emmaline Jessie), Henrietta (Henrietta Josephine), Louisa
(Louisa Jane), Mary (Mary Ann Woodgate?), Rose (Rosa Morris). Georgiana
(Georgi(a)na Emma) ●
there were (at least) 8 daughters, and in fact Elizabeth Sarah is missing
(see below), sso “Mary” must be Mary Ann Woodgate ●
but in another codicil, dated 21 APR 1904, her name is omitted, and only 6
daughters are mentioned, so perhaps she has died in the meantime, or
emigrated, or Henry James has only just learnt of one of these events
– the only certain event that had happened 1901-4 is that is that Mary Ann
Woodgate’s husband Samuel Makey had probably died ●
Mary Ann Woodgate Makey, after her marriage in 1866, is only found in the
1881 census and no other one, and no reliable death record can be found for
her ●
likewise Mary Ann Woodgate is also not mentioned in James Thomas Smith’s wife
Jane Ann's will, dated 18 SEP 1905, whereas all the other sisters are ●
a death for Mary Ann Woodgate in Q1
1917, West Ham, Essex R/D, is quoted by a source on Ancestry, but is for a
Mary A. W. Mackey, age 72 (so born about 1844-5), so must be treated
with some caution, especially as there is Mary Ann Mackey in the 1911 census,
living at West Ham, Essex, although it must be uncommon for there to be a
Mary A. W. Makey and a Mary A. W. Mackey, both born within a
couple of years of each other |
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“ELIZABETH” ●
a hitherto unknown name, “Elizabeth Payne”, daughter of Henry James Smith, is
mentioned in his brother James Thomas Smith's wife’s Jane Ann’s will, dated
18 SEP 1905 ●
but there was no mention of “Elizabeth Payne”, or of Elizabeth Sarah Smith,
in her husband James Thomas Smith's will and codicils, dated 1896-1904 ●
she mentions 7 daughters in the following order, which is, apart from Jane
Ann, fortunately in the order of birth: Jane
Ann Read, then Elizabeth
Payne, Rosa [Morris] Williams,
Georgina [Georgi(a)na Emma]
Williams, Louisa [Jane] Williams, Henrietta [Josephine] Bishop, Emmeline [Emmaline Jessie] Williams ●
so only Mary Ann Woodgate is missing ●
she lists a simplified form of the names, eg. Rosa Williams, rather than Rosa
Morris Williams, so “Elizabeth Payne” can easily be short for, say,
“Elizabeth Sarah Payne” ●
as all the other girls are accounted for, other than Mary Ann Woodgate, and
as “Elizabeth Payne” is in the correct position to be Elizabeth Sarah,
assuming Jane Ann hadn’t made a mistake, Elizabeth Sarah must have married a
man called Payne ●
as Elizabeth Sarah (Smith) is last found in the 1851 census, not in the 1861
census onwards, and as she was born in 1842, she could have married before
then, unless she died young 1851~61 ●
there is no marriage for an Elizabeth Sarah Smith with a Payne in the London
Metropolitan Archives online records, where the father’s name is also listed,
so where such a common name can only possibly be looked for, although her
baptism is there ●
likewise there is no record for someone of her age to have been buried in the
same archives ●
there is also no record in the 1861-1911 census of an Elizabeth (Sarah) Payne
born about 1842 in Peckham ●
so, always assuming she did marry someone called Payne, did they emigrate?
(with such a common name, research is difficult) ●
and was she presumably still alive in 1901, was she not mentioned in James
Thomas Smith's will, as not one of the “seven daughters … now living in
England”? ●
but she was mentioned in Jane Ann Smith’s will, so still alive in 1905? |
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HENRY JAMES SMITH’s DAUGHTERS MENTIONED
IN THE VARIOUS WILLS (total 8 daughters) |
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C |
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codicil to James Thomas Smith's will, dated 17 DEC 1901 “seven daughters … now living in England” |
codicil to James Thomas Smith's will, dated 21 APR 1904 |
Jane Ann Smith’s will, dated 18 SEP 1905 |
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TOTAL DAUGHTERS MENTIONED >> |
7 |
6 |
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Elizabeth
Sarah |
no |
no |
ok?? |
Mary
Ann Woodgate |
ok? |
no |
no |
Louisa
Jane |
ok |
ok |
ok |
Henrietta
Josephine |
ok |
ok |
ok |
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Rosa
Morris |
ok |
ok |
ok |
Georgi(a)na
Emma |
ok |
ok |
ok |
Jane
Ann |
ok |
ok |
ok |
Emmaline
Jessie |
ok |
ok |
ok |
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ANN FRANCES SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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© |
born
19 APR 1820CERT, Woolwich, KentCENSUS, baptized 10 MAY 1820,
St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. KentCERT |
© |
died
5 FEB 1876, Lee, KentCERT, age 55, buried Nunhead,
Surrey [died of cancer of the uterus] WILL |
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married
7 MAY 1838, St. Paul, Deptford, Kent, CHARLES JACOB
DURHAM, son of Jacob Durham I and Sarah Witherington |
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born about
1815, Hatton Garden, MiddxCENSUS |
© |
died 10 NOV 1870,
Greenwich, KentCERT, age 55,
buried Nunhead, Surrey [died of erysipelas] WILL |
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SARAH MORRIS SMITH |
GENERATION 3 |
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© |
born
9 APR 1824CERT, Deptford, KentCENSUS, baptized 4 JUL 1824,
St Paul, Deptford, KentCERT |
died
4 FEB 1874, Greenwich, Kent R/D, age 49, buried Nunhead, Surrey, 1874 FEB 12 |
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married
7 JUN 1853, St. Paul, Deptford, Kent,
CHARLES MESSINGHAM SHEPHERD I, son of John Anthony ShepherdCERT and
Sarah Norris, and brother of Sarah Jane Shepherd, wife of Alexander William
James Durham, Charles Jacob Durham’s brother |
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born 7 APR 1823, Greenwich, Kent |
died 30 AUG 1887, Deptford, Kent, age 64, buried Nunhead, Surrey, 5 SEP
1887 WILL |
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THE MORNING POST –
DEATHS – 7 FEB 1874 SHEPHERD - On the 4th
inst., Sarah Morris, wife of Charles Messingham Shepherd, of Clifton Villa,
Upper Lewisham-road, New-cross, in her fiftieth year |
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THE MORNING POST –
DEATHS – 2 SEP 1887 SHEPHERD - On the
30th ult., at Clifton Villa, 226, Lewisham High-road, St. John’s,
Charles Messingham Shepherd, in his sixty-fifth year |
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HENRY JAMES SMITH’s
CHILDREN |
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ELIZABETH SARAH SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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© |
born
18 JAN 1842CERT, Peckham, SurreyCENSUS |
died ? |
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married
– PAYNE?WILLS, SEE NOTES
ABOVE |
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born
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died ? |
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see
notes above re ELIZABETH PAYNE |
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nothing
more is known about – Payne |
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ROSA MORRIS SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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© |
born 27 JUN? 1843CERT,
Deptford, Kent CENSUS |
died 23 DEC 1925, Upton Manor, EssexWILL,
age 82 WILL |
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married
1 OCT 1878, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, Kent, GEORGE WILLIAMSBMD, son of Thomas Williams, r…..
merchant/wine merchant (1870), and Hannah Worme, and brother of William
Frederick and Charles Edward |
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born 1844, Neatton, GlosCENSUS |
died
Q1 1911, West Ham, Essex R/DBMD, age 66 |
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i |
nothing
more is known about George Williams |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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EMMELINE INA CHIVERS WILLIAMS |
Q4 1879, PaddingtonBMD, MiddxCENSUS |
30 AUG 1945, Kinson, Dorset, unmarriedWILL,
age 65, WILL |
nothing more is known about them |
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GEORGE HENRY VICTOR WILLIAMS |
Q2 1881, PaddingtonBMD, MiddxCENSUS |
21 SEP 1938, British Hospital, Buenos
Aires, ArgentinaWILL, age 57 WILL |
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HENRIETTA LOUISE MARION WILLIAMS |
Q1 1884, PaddingtonBMD, MiddxCENSUS |
27 DEC 1956, Upton Manor, Essex, unmarriedWILL,
age 72 WILL |
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JAMES WILLIAM CAREW WILLIAMS |
© |
1 OCT 1885CERT, Paddington, MiddxCENSUS |
30 JUN 1949, Upton Manor, EssexWILL,
age 63 WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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total 4 children by 1911 census, all aliveCENSUS |
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MARY ANN WOODGATE SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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© |
born 9 MAY 1846CERT, Deptford, KentCENSUS |
died possibly
1901~4? |
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married
4 JUN 1866, St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Middx, SAMUEL MAKEY, mariner?, son of Richard Makey, commercial
travellerCERT, and Ann Greenwood MaceFAM |
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born
before about 1845MARRIAGE CERT / about 1840?DEATH BMD /
28[?]
APR 1840, Old Ford, Bow, Middx?ONLINE
MERCHANT NAVY MASTERS AND MATES CERTIFICATES |
died
? / Q2 1902, Greenwich, Kent R/D, age 62?FAM, BMD |
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i |
a death for Mary Ann Woodgate in Q1 1917,
West Ham, Essex R/D, is quoted by a source on Ancestry, but is for a Mary A.
W. Mackey, age 72 (so born about 1844-5), so must be treated with some
caution, especially as there is Mary Ann Mackey in the 1911 census, living at
West Ham, Essex |
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●
a Samuel Makey, born 28[?] APR 1840 at Old Ford, Bow, Middx, of 3 Colt
Street, Bow, Middx, was granted a Merchant Navy Masters and Mates Certificate
of Competency 21 SEP 1861ONLINE
MERCHANT NAVY MASTERS AND MATES CERTIFICATES – Samuel gave Bow
as his residence in his marriage certificate, so this could be him ●
a Samuel Makey arrived in Sydney, NSW, Australia, in 1870 and 1876 as a crew
memberNEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA, UNASSISTED IMMIGRANT PASSENGER LISTS ●
nothing more is known about him |
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CHILDREN? none in 1881 census |
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GEORGI(A)NA EMMA SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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© |
born 10 DEC 1847, Deptford, KentCENSUS |
died
25 OCT 1928, Bristol, GlosWILL, age 80, buried
29 OCT 1928, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD WILL |
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married
16 DEC 1873, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, Kent, CHARLES EDWARD WILLIAMS, son of Thomas WilliamsCERT, r….. merchant/wine
merchantCENSUS (1870), and Hannah Worme, and brother of William
Frederick and George |
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born
about 1848CENSUS / Q2 1847?BMD, Bristol, Glos CENSUS |
died
19 OCT 1911, Bristol, GlosWILL, age 64, buried 25 OCT 1911, St
Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD WILL |
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i |
●
the name Carew in Frances Elsie Georgiana Carew’s name, and also in that of a
cousin, is presumably some female ancestor’s maiden name ●
the name Worme in Henrietta Hannah Worme’s name was Charles Edward’s mother’s
maiden name |
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nothing more is known about Charles Edward Williams |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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JANE ANN SMITH WILLIAMS |
Q4 1876BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 4 DEC 1876, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
29 JUN 1963, Kirk Deighton, YorksWILL,
age 87 WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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FRANCES ELSIE GEORGIANA CAREW WILLIAMS |
Q3 1879BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 9 NOV 1879, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
4 MAY 1916, King Edward VII Hospital, Cardiff, Glamorgan, WalesWILL,
age 36 WILL |
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JAMES THOMAS WILLIAMS |
29 JUL 1882BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 29 OCT 1882, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
? |
emigrated to South AfricaFAM -
nothing more is known about him |
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9 APR 1885BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 23 SEP 1885, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
12 NOV 1958, Leyton, EssexWILL,
age 73 WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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LILIAN MAUD WILLIAMS |
6 NOV 1887BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 29 AUG 1888, St Andrew,
Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
DEC 1974, Bristol, Glos
R/DBMD, age 87 |
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VIOLET FREDERICA WILLIAMS |
17 DEC 1889BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 6 SEP 1893, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
about 1960, Guernsey, Channel IslandsFAM,
age about 71 |
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LOUISA JANE SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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born 6 AUG 1850, Limehouse, Middx |
died 10 NOV 1941, Kinson, DorsetWILL,
age 91, buried St Mary, Longfleet, DorsetBMD WILL |
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married
20 AUG 1870, St Paul, Bow Common, Middx, WILLIAM
FREDERICK WILLIAMS, son of Thomas Williams, r….. merchant/wine merchant (1870),
and Hannah Worme, and brother of George and Charles Edward |
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born about 1844, Stratton, Glos |
died
16 JUL 1908, Longfleet,
Poole, DorsetWILL, age 65, buried 20 JUL 1908, St Mary, Longfleet,
DorsetBMD WILL |
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DIED |
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LOUISE TRECASTER MARIANNE WILLIAMS |
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Q3 1871BMD |
Stepney, MiddxCENSUS |
9 DEC 1943, Duncliffe Nursing Home,
Parkstone, DorsetWILL, age 72, buried St Mary, Longfleet, DorsetBMD
WILL |
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GEORGINA JENNY ROSE WILLIAMS |
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Q4 1872BMD |
14 DEC 1927, Parkstone, DorsetWILL,
buried 17 DEC 1927, St Andrew, Kinson, DorsetCERT
WILL |
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FLORENCE ELLEN CAREW WILLIAMS |
© |
Q3 1874BMD / 11 JUL 1865 [sic]CENSUS |
Sherborne, DorsetCENSUS, baptized |
2 AUG 1874 |
Sherborne,
DorsetCERT |
8 OCT 1957, Kinson, DorsetWILL,
age 83, buried St Andrew, Kinson, Dorset WWW.FINDAGRAVE.COM
WILL |
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THOMAS HENRY WILLIAMS |
Q3 1875BMD |
15 AUG 1875 |
? |
● both unmarried in 1911 ● nothing more is known about them |
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FREDERICK GEORGE WILLIAMS |
Q2 1877BMD |
6 MAY 1877 |
after 1938COUSIN GEORGE HENRY VICTOR WILLIAMS’
WILL |
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OTHERS? |
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JANE ANN SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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born 1852 AUG 09, Limehouse/Mile
End, Middx |
died 7 JAN 1933, Hockley, EssexWILL,
age 80 WILL |
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married
2 APR 1872, St Paul, Bow Common, Middx, EDMUND
READ, son of Henry Benjamin Read, tailor |
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born Q2 1845, Stepney, Middx |
died
9 AUG 1919, Wood Green, MiddxWILL, age 74 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about Edmund Read |
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DIED |
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Q2 1873BMD |
Forest Gate, Essex CENSUS |
18 FEB 1951, Leigh-on-Sea, EssexWILL,
age 77 WILL |
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ETHEL CATHERINE READ |
Q3 1874BMD |
? |
nothing more is known about them |
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HENRY EDMUND READ |
Q3 1876BMD Forest Gate, Essex? |
Q4 1876, West Ham, Essex R/D, age 0 |
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EDMUND FRANK READ |
Q3 1877BMD |
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Q3 1906, Bromley, Kent R/D, age 29 |
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ELSIE LOUISE READ |
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Q4 1879BMD |
Forest Gate, Essex CENSUS |
26 OCT 1960, Hockley, EssexWILL,
age 81, WILL |
● unmarried ● nothing more is known about her |
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MABEL BEATRICE READ |
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Q3 1881BMD |
? |
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BERTHA WOODGATE READ |
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Q3 1883BMD |
Q1 1969, Bodmin, Cornwall R/DBMD, age 85 |
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HILDA GERTRUDE READ |
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Q3 1886BMD / 22 JUL 1886FAM,
Leytonstone, EssexCENSUS |
7 AUG 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia, age 8, buried 10 NOV 1970, 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia |
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FREDERICK WILLIAM READ |
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Q1 1890BMD / 14 JAN 1888?CENSUS,
Plaistow, EssexCENSUS |
? |
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OTHERS? |
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WILLIAM VICTOR SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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born 24 MAY
1856, Mile End, Middx |
died
2 DEC 1925. Dulwich Hill, New South Wales, Australia, age 69, buried 10[?]
DEC 1925DEATH ANNOUNCEMENT, Rookwood Roman Catholic Cemetery, New
South Wales, AustraliaAUSTRALIA CEMETERY INDEX |
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married
8 OCT 1893, St Mary (RC Church? yyy),
Moruya, New South Wales, Australia, CATHERINE
McKEON, daughter of John McKeon ad Bridget Whelan (both born in Ireland)FAM |
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born 8 OCT 1863,
Moruya, New South Wales, AustraliaFAM |
died
27 JAN 1933, Manly, New South Wales, Australia, age 69, buried Rookwood RC
Cemetery, New South Wales, AustraliaFAM |
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care must be taken with the data for this family, as most of the information
has been provided by related families, and no sources have been given ●
points marked YYY are still to be clarified |
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William
Victor was last found in the 1881 census in England, so he must have
emigrated to Australia sometime between 1881 and 1893, the date of his
marriage |
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nothing
more is known about Catherine McKeon |
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THE
SYDNEY MORNING HERALD [NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA] – 3 DEC 1925 – DEATHS SMITH. - December 2, 1925, at his residence, Broulee, 4
Douglas-street, Dulwich Hill, William Victor, beloved husband of Catherine
Smith, aged 68[sic] years. R.I.P. |
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THE
SYDNEY MORNING HERALD [NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA] – 3 DEC 1925 – FUNERALS SMITH.
- The Relatives and Friends of Mrs. CATHERINE SMITH and FAMILY are invited to
attend the Funeral of her beloved HUSBAND and their FATHER, William Victor;
to leave St. Thomas' Church, Lewisham, THIS THURSDAY, at 1.30 p.m., for the
Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood, via Lewisham Station. CHARLES KINSELA. Funeral Director, Newe Canterbury-road, Dulwich Hill |
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DIED |
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HENRY JOHN MICHAEL SMITH “Harry” |
29 SEP 1894, Pyrmont, New South Wales,
AustraliaFAM |
22 DEC 1978, Manly Vale Nursing Home, New
South Wales, Australia,, age 84, buried 27 DEC 1978, Frenchs
Forest, New South Wales, AustraliaDEATH NOTICE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD 26
DEC 1978 |
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LOUIS VICTOR SMITH |
9 JUL 1896, Pyrmont, New South Wales,
AustraliaFAM |
7 MAY 1988, Chatswood, New South Wales,
Australia, age 91, buried Northern Suburbs Cemetery, North Ryde, Sydney, New
South Wales, AustraliaDEATH NOTICE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD 11 MAY 1988 |
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WILLIAM CLETUS SMITH |
13 JUL 1897, Pyrmont, New South Wales,
AustraliaFAM |
7 NOV 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia, age 73FAM |
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MARY ANGELA SMITH |
13 MAY 1899, Pyrmont, New South Wales,
AustraliaFAM |
1 JAN 1972, Manly, New South Wales,
Australia, age 72FAM |
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EDITHA CATHERINE SMITH |
19 FEB 1907, Dulwich Hill, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
14 JUN 1969, Manly, New South Wales,
Australia, age 62FAM |
nothing more is known about her |
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HENRIETTA JOSEPHINE SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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born 1858 AUG 14, Bow / Mile End, Middx |
died
5 FEB 1928, Catford, KentWILL, age 69
WILL |
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married
21 NOV 1878, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, Kent, WILLIAM MIDDLEBROOK BISHOP, son of Robert BishopCERT
and Mary RidgeFAM |
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born Q3 1843BMD,
Newark, NottsCENSUS |
died
16 MAR 1909, West
Folkestone, KentWILL, age 65 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about William Middlebrook Bishop |
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EMMALINE JESSIE SMITH |
GENERATION 4 |
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born 27 SEP 1863, Limehouse, Middx |
died 22 JUL 1933, Bexleyheath, KentWILL,
age 69 WILL |
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married
18 SEP 1888, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, Kent, JOHN RUSSELL WILLMORE, son of John WillmoreCERT,
ironmonger & gas fitter, and Charlotte -- |
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born about 1858, Rye, Sussex |
died
24 APR 1924, Bexleyheath, KentWILL, age about 66 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about John Russell Willmore |
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DIED |
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JOHN RICHARDS DUNCAN WILLMORE |
© |
JUL 1889…., Bexleyheath, KentCENSUS,
baptized 8 SEP 1889, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, KentCERT |
Q4 1973, Bexley, Kent R/DBMD, age 84 |
SEE BELOW |
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ARCHIBALD FRANCIS WILLMORE |
16 JUL 1891DEATH BMD |
Bexleyheath, Kent CENSUS,
baptized 26 MAR 1893, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, KentCERT |
Q2 1981, Andover, Hants R/DBMD, age 89 |
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LAURENCE JAMES WILLMORE |
Q1 1893BMD |
25 OCT 1965, Joyce Green Hospital,
Dartford, KentWILL, age 72 WILL |
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EMMELINE CHARLOTTE WILLMORE |
16 JAN 1896DEATH BMD,
Bexleyheath, KentCENSUS, baptized 3 MAY 1896, Christ Church, Bexleyheath,
KentCERT |
25 AUG 1971WILL, Bexley, Kent R/DBMD,
age 75 WILL |
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total 4 children by 1911 census, all alive |
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ROSA MORRIS SMITH’S CHILDREN |
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JAMES WILLIAM CAREW WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 1 OCT 1885CERT,
Paddington, Middx CENSUS |
died 30 JUN 1949, Upton Manor, EssexWILL,
age 63 WILL |
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married
Q2 1917, West Ham, Essex R/D and Q3 1917, Newtown, Montgomeryshire, WalesBMD,
MILDRED BERTIE MILNES (unclear why
the marriage was registered twice) |
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born 18 DEC 1888BMD |
died Q3 1983, Winchester, Hants R/DBMD,
age 94 |
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nothing
more is known about Mildred Bertie Milnes |
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JAMES V(IVIAN?) C(AREW?) WILLIAMS |
Q2 1918BMD / 13 JUN 1918?DEATH
BMD, West Ham, Essex R/DBMD |
died 19 SEP 2006?WILL, Stafford, Staffs
R/D, age 88?BMD |
SEE BELOW |
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BARBARA J. C.? WILLIAMS |
Q4 1922, West Ham, Essex R/DBMD |
nothing more is known about her |
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GEORGI(A)NA EMMA SMITH’S CHILDREN |
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JANE ANN SMITH WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q4 1876BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 4 DEC 1876, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
died 29 JUN 1963, Kirk Deighton, YorksWILL,
age 87 WILL |
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married
about 19051911 CENSUS, GEORGE
EDWARD OGILVIE I, ship stewardFAM |
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born about 1877DEATH BMD |
died Q4 1953, Liverpool North, Lancs R/DBMD,
in hospitalFAM, age 76 |
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notes from Jane Ann Smith’s grandson: (to follow) I have now an overall picture of this amazing
woman Jane Ann Smith Williams who crammed so much into her life - she had to
be the black sheep or a renegade of the family, not backing off for anything
or any one. She was born and raised in Bristol became a
student teacher or helper, then in her twenties went to Cape Town, South
Africa, and so I am told, became a
Nurse during the Boer War [1899–1902]. She returned after the War, got
married, and lived in Southampton, having five children in seven years from
1906 to 1913, the last one my Mother born in Bristol, then moved to Liverpool
and, after the boys’ education, sent them all off to face WW2 in the Merchant
Navy - one of them was a POW until the end of the war. During all this she went back to Nursing the war
veterans and was the owner and breeder of Greyhounds that raced in the
Liverpool area. She then moved again with my Mother to a small farm in Kirk
Deighton [Yorks] for a period of time,
then eventually to Wetherby [Yorks], and then went back to Nursing again at a
Children's Hospital in Knaresborough [Yorks]. Somewhere amongst all this time Jane Ann Smith
Ogilvie, she became a Catholic and changed her name to Agnes Mary Ogilvie,
separated from her husband, and became a close friend of Mrs Mary Bonham
Christie. I know that my uncle George Edward Ogilvie was on
Brownsea Island first due to the fact that when she [Mary Bonham Christie]
bought it in 1927 she evicted around 340 people, but kept the gardener, odd
job man and George Ogilvie the Boat Man, who would then have been 20ish. Although the Island was strictly private and no
one but no one was allowed to visit without an appointment for over 30 years
it became a haven for Gran, George, Denis ,Ruby, Bob, Charles, Hetty my Mum,
Dad, and sister Jane, as the photos show. All this was over and done with by the time I was
of an age to take part, all I am left with are hundreds and letters that I have
only recently acquired, at the age of 64, and I do not recognise or am unable
to explain 60% of them. But they seem to fall into categories: The War, The Greyhounds, The Farm at Kirk
Deighton, and Brownsea Island. (more to follow) |
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nothing
more is known about George Edward Ogilvie |
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DIED |
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GEORGE EDWARD OGILVIE II |
25 SEP 1906DEATH BMD, Southampton,
HantsCENSUS |
DEC 1991?, Claro, Yorks R/D?BMD,
age 85? |
● unmarried ● nothing more is known about him |
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CHARLES EDMUND OGILVIE |
1 SEP 1908DEATH BMD, Bassett, Southampton,
HantsCENSUS |
29 MAR 1993?WILL, Surrey South
Western R/D, age 84?BMD |
SEE BELOW |
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ROBERT JAMES F. OGILVIE |
3 DEC 1910DEATH BMD, Bassett, Southampton,
HantsCENSUS |
Q4 1970, Claro, Yorks R/DBMD,
age 60 |
● unmarried ● nothing more is known about him |
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FREDERICK DENIS OGILVIE |
Q1 1912, Southampton, Hants R/DBMD |
? |
SEE BELOW |
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MARY KATHLEEN OGILVIE |
26 JUL 1913DEATH BMD, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD |
25 NOV 1983, Claro, Yorks R/DBMD, age 70 |
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total
3 children by 1911 census, all alive |
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FRANCES ELSIE GEORGIANA CAREW WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q3 1879BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS,
baptized 9 NOV 1879, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
died 4 MAY 1916, King Edward VII Hospital, Cardiff, Glamorgan, WalesWILL,
age 36 WILL |
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married
2 AUG 1913, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, Glos, JOSEPH EDWARD FOSTER, electrician,
son of William FosterBMD, and Louisa --?CENSUS |
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born about 1884?POSSIBLE DEATH BMD / 31 MAR
1884? CENSUS |
died after 1929 [sic]WIFE’S WILL
/ Q3 1961, East Glamorgan, Glamorgan, Wales R/D, age 77?BMD / 1 SEP
1961, Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales?WILL |
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Joseph Edward possibly married (2) Q3 1922, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales R/D, Ada
Dorothy AshtonBMD, POSSIBLE PROBATE DETAILS (born 9 APR 1895?CENSUS)
and had at least 2 childrenCENSUS ●
nothing more is known about him |
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CHILDREN? |
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GENERATION 5 |
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born 9 APR 1885BMD, Bristol,
GlosCENSUS, baptized 23 SEP 1885, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol,
GlosBMD |
died 12 NOV 1958, Leyton, EssexWILL,
age 73 WILL |
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married
Q3 1931 London City, Middx R/D, JOHN
FREDERICK HARRY CHILDSBMD |
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born Q2 1882, Chester, Cheshire R/DBMD |
died 10 JAN 1953, Leyton, EssexWILL,
age 70 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about John Frederick Harry Childs |
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LILIAN MAUD WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 6 NOV 1887BMD, Bristol,
GlosCENSUS, baptized 29 AUG
1888, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, GlosBMD |
died DEC 1974, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD, age 87 |
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married 3 MAY 1909, St
Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol, Glos, WALTER WEEKS, son of Edmund WeeksBMD |
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born about 1886CENSUS / 9 JAN 1886?DEATH
BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS |
died Q1 1977?, Bristol, Glos R/D?BMD,
age 91? |
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nothing
more is known about Walter Weeks |
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DIED |
NOTES |
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ARTHUR WALTER WEEKS |
5 OCT 1910DEATH
BMD, Bristol, GlosCENSUS |
Q1 1974,
Chanctonbury, Sussex R/DBMD, age 63 |
nothing more is known about him |
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DOREEN L. WEEKS |
Q2 1915, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD |
? |
● it is not definite that either
one of them was Lily Maud’s child ● as there was another
Williams/Weeks family in Bristol at this time, one of these children MAY have
been the latter’s ● nothing more is known about them |
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ROBERT C. WEEKS |
Q3 1915, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD |
? |
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total 1
children by 1911 census, alive |
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VIOLET FREDERICA WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 17 DEC 1889BMD, Bristol,
GlosCENSUS, baptized 6 SEP 1893, St Andrew, Montpelier, Bristol,
GlosBMD |
died about 1960, Guernsey, Channel IslandsFAM,
age about 71 |
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married
20 SEP 1913, St Andrew,
Montpelier, Bristol, Glos, ARTHUR EDWARD VIZARD, son of Henry VizardBMD and
Emily TaylorFAM |
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born 6 SEP 1887FAM, Barrow Gurney,
SomersetCENSUS |
died 18 JAN 1949, Eastleigh, HantsWILL,
age 61 WILL |
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i |
much
of the information on the Vizard
family has been taken from a tree on Ancestry.com belonging to a member of
the Rowe family, and as Guernsey BMD records are not online, cannot be
verified |
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nothing
more is known about Arthur Edward
Vizard |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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MURIEL G. B.BMD
/ MURIEL GEORGIANNA BEATRIXFAM VIZARD |
21 JUN 1914FAM,
Bristol, Glos R/DBMD |
20 OCT 1998, King Edward VII Hospital, Castel, Guernsey, Channel
IslandsFAM, age 84 |
SEE BELOW |
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NANCYE E. V. VIZARD |
15 FEB 1918FAM,
Bristol, Glos R/DBMD |
about 1967, Ronceval Wing, (hospital?), Guernsey,
Channel IslandsFAM, age about 49 |
nothing more is known about her |
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one of CHARLES EDWARD WILLIAMS’ children |
GENERATION 5 |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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GLADYS WINIFRED WILLIAMS |
about 1905CENSUS / Q1 1905?BMD / 20
JAN 1905?DEATH BMD,
Bristol, GlosCENSUS |
JUN 1989?, Redbridge, Essex R/D?BMD,
age 84? |
nothing more is known about her |
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i |
● a Gladys Williams, age 6, is
listed in Charles Edward Williams’ household in the 1911 census, relationship
“child”, possibly a grandchild, so it is not possible to know who her parents
were – no baptism has been found online ● probate for Henrietta Hannah
Worme Williams Childs (“Hettie”)’s will was granted in 1959 to a Gladys
Winifred Williams, spinster, so it is possible that this was the same person ● there are 2 Gladys Winifred Williams in the birth
index born in Bristol, Glos R/D, Q3 1903 and Q1 1905, so it is likely that it
was the latter ● Mary Kathleen Ogilvie Swales’ son
comments: "I remember Gladys as aunt Gladys, she was a retired teacher and used to visit my Grandmother - she also sent me books, etc. - my sister says that she was taken in by her
aunt Henrietta (Hettie) but that she was the daughter of one of the other sisters,
but she does not know who" ● she was born about 1905 - in 1905
none of Charles Edward Williams’ daughters were married, except possibly Jane Ann Smith, and 3 of the
daughters, including Jane Ann Smith, were 20 or over ● but if Henrietta (Hettie) was
really her aunt and she was the daughter of one of the other daughters, this only
leaves 2 daughters who might have been the mother, assuming she wasn’t the daughter
of the son, James Thomas, who however might have emigrated to South Africa by then ● a Gladys Winifred Williams worked
as a teacher from 1925 onwards in Bristol and Hackney, MiddxTEACHERS'
REGISTRATION COUNCIL REGISTERS 1914-1948 (see PHOTOS),
so this is possibly her ● a newspaper report about a court
case over Charles Edward’s willWESTERN DAILY PRESS, BRISTOL, 27 FEB 1929
actually mentioned Gladys Winifred Williams as grandchild of Charles
Edward (see PHOTOS),
and it would appear that she was given a special place in the inheritance ● Mary Kathleen Ogilvie Swales’ son
also comments: "The last time I saw Gladys was in the late 1950’s, so
she must have been about 54-55, and was as far as I know still single – at that
time she lived at 157 Peterborough Road, Leyton, London E12” ● 157 Peterborough Road, Leyton,
London E12 (Leyton, Essex) was Henrietta Hannah Worme Williams Childs
(Hettie”)’s home – perhaps Gladys Winifred inherited it from her after the
latter’s death in 1958 ● Mary Kathleen Ogilvie Swales’
daughter comments: “Gladys always lived with Hettie, and when Hettie died she
continued at the same address - the last time I was in contact with her was just after our
Mother died in 1983, that made Gladys 77, still single at the time – we never
heard from her again” |
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LOUISA JANE SMITH’s CHILDREN THE (WILLIAM FREDERICK) WILLIAMS FAMILY, STEPNEY,
MIDDX and SHERBORNE,
DORSET |
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LOUISE TRECASTER MARIANNE WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q3 1871, Stepney, Middx |
died 9 DEC 1943, Duncliffe Nursing Home,
Parkstone, DorsetWILL, age 72, buried St Mary, Longfleet, DorsetBMD
WILL |
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married
2 AUG 1905, Longfleet, Dorset, JEFFREY
BARTERBMD, son of Joseph Orchard Barter, accountant, and Marina
LouisaBAPTISM CERT BrownFAM |
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born about 1871, Poole, DorsetCENSUS,
baptized 13 SEP 1871, St James, Poole, DorsetCERT |
died 9 SEP 1940, Cornelia and East Dorset
Hospital, Poole, DorsetWILL, age 69, buried St Mary, Longfleet,
DorsetBMD WILL |
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●
in the image of his baptism record, Jeffrey’s father’s name is clearly Joseph
Orchard Barter, whereas in the transcription of his marriage record,
it is Joseph Richard Barter, but either might be a transcription
mistake ●
nothing more is known about him |
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no children by 1911 census |
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GEORGINA JENNY ROSE WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q4 1872, Stepney, Middx |
died 14 DEC 1927, Parkstone, DorsetWILL,
buried 17 DEC 1927, St Andrew, Kinson, DorsetCERT
WILL |
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© |
married
(1) 20 APR 1892, Parish Church, Longfleet, Dorset, CHARLES SPENCER, son of Charles Spencer (deceased), licensed
victualler, and Mary -- |
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born about 1850, Kinson, Dorset |
died 25 FEB 1911, Kinson, DorsetWILL, age
61 WILL |
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married
(2) 22 APR 1912, Kingstone, Dorset, HENRY
ARTHUR EATON, son of Silas EatonBMD |
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born about 1879?DEATH BMD |
died Q4 1941, Bournemouth, Dorset R/D, age 62?BMD |
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nothing
more is known about Charles Spencer or Henry Arthur Eaton |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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IRENE LOUISE SPENCER |
Q3 1895, Kinson, Dorset |
? |
nothing more is known about them |
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MURIEL MARIE SPENCER |
Q3 1897, Kinson, Dorset |
? |
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● total 3 children by 1911 census, of
whom 1 dead |
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FLORENCE ELLEN CAREW WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 5 |
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© |
born Q3 1874BMD / 11 JUL 1865[sic]CENSUS,
Sherborne, DorsetCENSUS, baptized 2 AUG 1874, Sherborne, DorsetCERT |
died 8 OCT 1957, Kinson, DorsetWILL,
age 83, buried St Andrew, Kinson, DorsetWWW.FINDAGRAVE.COM
WILL |
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married
10 JUL 1901, Parish Church, Longfleet, Dorset, REGINALD ATKINS, son of David Atkins, deceased, malster(?)CERT |
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born about 1874 / 24 NOV 1864[sic]DEATH BMD,
Kinson, DorsetCENSUS |
died 24 AUG 1948,
Kinson, DorsetWILL, age 74, buried St Andrew, Kinson, DorsetWWW.FINDAGRAVE.COM
WILL |
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● the birth record is for Florence Ellen
C. Williams, the baptism record for Florence Ellen Carew Williams, the
marriage certificate shows Florence Helen Carew Williams, the death
record Florence H. C. Atkins, and the probate record Florence Ellen
Carew Atkins |
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● nothing more is known about Reginald Atkins |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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7 APR 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD,
Kinson, DorsetCENSUS, baptized 6 MAY 1906, Kingstone[?], DorsetBMD |
16 MAR 1993, Bournemouth, HantsWILL,
age 86, buried St Andrew, Kinson, Dorset WWW.FINDAGRAVE.COM WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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● total 1 child by 1911 census, alive |
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JANE ANN SMITH’s CHILDREN |
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GENERATION 5 |
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born Q2 1873BMD, Forest Gate,
EssexCENSUS |
died 18 FEB 1951, Leigh-on-Sea, EssexWILL,
age 77 WILL |
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© |
married
6 APR 1899, St John the Evangelist, Sidcup, Kent, CHARLES BAR(R)ON FITZHARDY, widower, son of James
Domingo Fitzhardy, merchantCERT |
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born Q4 1857BMD, Brixton, SurreyCENSUS |
died 13 APR 1928, Leigh-on-Sea, EssexWILL,
age70 WILL |
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i |
● Charles Bar(r)on married
(1) 1887, Jane Elizabeth Jones, about 1862-97, and had
a daughter, Florence Mary, 1889-92 ●
nothing more is known about him |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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LEONARD BARON FITZHARDY |
20 JAN 1900, Manor Park, Essex |
31 DEC 1976WILL, Worthing,
Sussex R/DBMD, age 77 WILL |
● possibly unmarried ● nothing more is known about him |
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OTHERS? ●
total 1 child by 1911 census, alive |
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MABEL BEATRICE READ |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q3 1881BMD, Forest Gate,
Essex CENSUS |
died Q4 1952,
Worthing, Sussex R/D, age 69?BMD |
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© |
married
11 AUG 1903, Christ Church, Sidcup, Kent, WALTER GIDDINGS, son of Saul Giddings, merchantCERT |
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born
Q1 1876BMD, Canning Town, EssexCENSUS |
died Q1 1941, Worthing, Sussex R/DBMD,
age 65? |
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i |
the
deaths in Worthing, Sussex R/D are all assumed, as a WALTER, MABEL B., RONALD
W. and DOUGLAS FRANK GIDDINGS all died there, so perhaps the family moved
there |
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nothing
more is known about Walter Giddings |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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MONICA MABEL LUCY GIDDINGS |
26 JUN 1904BMD, East Ham,
Essex CENSUS |
Q4 1971, Paddington, Middlesex R/D
BMD, age 67 |
● unmarried ● nothing more is known about her |
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DOUGLAS FRANK GIDDINGS |
28 JUL 1905BMD, Little Ilford, EssexCENSUS |
15 MAR 1987?WILL, Worthing,
Sussex R/D, age 81?BMD WILL |
● a marriage in 1943 with Bertha K.
Wells/White, no children in the births index, is unlikely ● nothing more is known about him |
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RONALD WALTER GIDDINGS |
Q3 1906BMD, Little Ilford, EssexCENSUS |
Q2 1943, Worthing, Sussex R/D, age 36?BMD |
nothing more is known about them |
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EDMUND WYNDHAM GIDDINGS |
Q4 1908BMD, Manor Park, EssexCENSUS |
Q3 1927, Billericay, Essex R/DBMD,
age 18?BMD |
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4 children by 1911 census, all alive |
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BERTHA WOODGATE READ |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q3 1883BMD, Forest Gate, EssexCENSUS |
died Q1 1969, Bodmin, Cornwall R/DBMD,
age 85 |
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married
2 SEP 1908, Christ Church, Sidcup, Kent, RUFUS
LLEWELLYN SYMONS, son of John
Penrose, railway officialCERT |
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born Q2 1879BMD, St Winnow, CornwallCENSUS |
died Q3 1962, Truro, Cornwall R/DBMD, age
83 |
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nothing more is known about Rufus Llewellyn Symons |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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Q1 1911BMD, Bexleyheath, KentCENSUS |
Q1 1967, Woolwich, Kent R/DBMD, age 56 |
SEE BELOW |
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ALAN L. SYMONS |
Q3 1915, Bromley, Kent R/DBMD |
Q3 1915, Bromley, Kent R/DBMD, age 0 |
nothing more is known about him |
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●
total 1 child by 1911 census, alive ●
further children were born 1916 onwards in Bethnal Green, Middx R/D, mother’s
maiden name Read, but are possibly of a different family |
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HILDA
GERTRUDE READ |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q3 1886BMD / 22 JUL 1886FAM,
Leytonstone, EssexCENSUS |
died 7 AUG 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia, age 8, buried 10 NOV 1970, 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
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married 1925, Sydney, New South
Wales, Australia, WILLIAM CLETUS SMITH, son of William Victor Smith and Catherine
McKean, her cousinFAM, SEE BELOW |
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born 13 JUL 1897, Pyrmont, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
died 7 NOV 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia, age 73FAM |
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Hilda
Gertrude was last found in the 1911 census in England, so she must have
emigrated to Australia sometime between 1911 and 1925, the date of her
marriage |
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FREDERICK
WILLIAM READ |
GENERATION 5 |
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born Q1 1890BMD / 14 JAN 1888?CENSUS,
Plaistow, EssexCENSUS |
died ? |
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married 19 APR 1916, St John the Baptist, Erith,
Kent, LILY COPPING, daughter of Arthur Copping, farmer?CERT |
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born about 1897MARRIAGE CERT |
died ? |
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●
there is some doubt as to whether this is the correct marriage, as -
Frederick William gives an address in Erith, whereas in the 1911 census the
Read family was living in Sidcup, Kent -
he gives as his father Edmund Read, time keeper, whereas the latter is
referred to as grocer everywhere else -
in the 1911 census, he gives mechanic fitter as his occupation, in the
marriage certificate foreman engineer -
on the other hand, his age in the marriage certificate, 26, would make him
born about 1890 -
and one of the witnesses was Jane Ann Read, his mother’s name ●
as there were no other suitable Read/Copping marriages in this period, either
or both of these children might be theirs |
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●
nothing more is known about Lily
Copping |
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possible
CHILDREN |
BORN |
NOTES |
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ERIC M. READ |
Q4 1916, Dartford, Kent R/DBMD |
died ? |
nothing more is known about them |
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MARGARET E. READ |
Q1 1922, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD |
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WILLIAM VICTOR SMITH’s CHILDREN AUSTRALIA |
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HENRY JOHN MICHAEL SMITH “Harry” |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 29 SEP 1894, Pyrmont, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
died 22 DEC 1978, Manly Vale Nursing
Home, New South Wales, Australia,, age 84, buried 27 DEC 1978,
Frenchs Forest, New South Wales, AustraliaDEATH NOTICE SYDNEY MORNING
HERALD 26 DEC 1978 |
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married 1924, Cootamundra, New
South Wales, Australia, MILDRED GERTRUDE MAHER “Millie”, daughter of Michael Joseph Maher, (of Irish
descent) and Ellen Nye (born in Ireland)FAM |
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born 30 NOV 1897, Cootamundra, New South Wales, AustraliaFAM |
29 OCT 1977, Manly Hospital, New South
Wales, Australia,, age 79, buried Frenchs Forest, New South Wales,
AustraliaFAM |
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LOUIS VICTOR SMITH |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 9 JUL 1896, Pyrmont, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
died 7 MAY 1988, Chatswood, New South
Wales, Australia, age 91, buried Northern Suburbs Cemetery, North Ryde,
Sydney, New South Wales, AustraliaDEATH NOTICE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD 11 MAY
1988 |
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married 11 NOV 1925, St Thomas Becket RC Church, Lewisham,
New South Wales, Australia, CAROLINE LAXTONFAM |
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born 14 JAN 1890, Happy Valley, Mount
Morgan, Queensland AustraliaFAM |
died 22 NOV 1977, Cremorne, New South
Wales, Australia, age 87FAM |
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nothing more is known about Caroline Laxton |
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WILLIAM CLETUS SMITH |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 13 JUL 1897, Pyrmont, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
died 7 NOV 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia, age 73FAM |
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married 1925, Sydney, New South
Wales, Australia, HILDA GERTRUDE READ, daughter of Edmund Read and Jane Ann Smith, his cousinFAM,
SEE ABOVE |
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born Q3 1886BMD, / 22 JUL 1886FAM,
Leytonstone, EssexCENSUS |
died 7 AUG 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, Australia, age 8, buried 10 NOV 1970, 1970, Murwillumbah, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
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Hilda
Gertrude was last found in the 1911 census in England, so she must have
emigrated to Australia sometime between 1911 and 1925, the date of her
marriage |
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MARY ANGELA SMITH |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 13 MAY 1899, Pyrmont, New South
Wales, AustraliaFAM |
died 1 JAN 1972YYY,
Manly, New South Wales, Australia, age 72FAM |
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married 15 APR 1925, St Thomas Becket RC Church, Lewisham,
New South Wales, Australia, VALENTINE
LAWLERFAM |
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born 19 SEP 1897, Temora, New South Wales, Australia FAM |
died 1 JAN 1965
YYY, Manly, New South Wales, Australia, age 67FAM |
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nothing more is known about Valentine Lawler |
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CHILDREN, 30 GRANDCHILDREN, at least 1 GREAT-GRANDCHILDFAM – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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EMMALINE JESSIE SMITH’s CHILDREN |
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JOHN RICHARDS DUNCAN WILLMORE |
GENERATION 5 |
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born JUL 1889…., Bexleyheath,
KentCENSUS, baptized 8 SEP 1889, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, KentCERT |
died 6 DEC 1973WILL, Bexley, Kent R/DBMD,
age 84 WILL |
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married
23 AUG 1919, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, Kent, IVY FLORENCE BIGGS, daughter of William Biggs, registrarCERT |
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born about 1896DEATH BMD |
died 12 DEC 1963, Joyce Green Hospital,
Dartford, KentWILL, age 67BMD
WILL |
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nothing more
is known about Ivy Florence Biggs |
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ARCHIBALD FRANCIS WILLMORE |
GENERATION 5 |
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© |
born 16 JUL 1891DEATH BMD,
Bexleyheath, Kent CENSUS, baptized 26 MAR 1893, Christ Church,
Bexleyheath, KentCERT |
died 22 MAY 1981WILL, Andover,
Hants R/DBMD, age 89 WILL |
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married
24 APR 1920, Parish Church, Aldershot, Hants, WINIFRED EMILY WEST WALLIS, daughter of George Wallis, “independent”BMD |
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born 6 MAR 1894DEATH BMD |
died 3 MAR 1980WILL, Andover,
Hants R/DBMD, age 86 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about Winifred Emily West Wallis |
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CHILDREN? |
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LAURENCE JAMES WILLMORE |
GENERATION 5 |
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© |
born Q1 1893BMD, Bexleyheath,
KentCENSUS, baptized 26 MAR 1893, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, KentCERT |
died 25 OCT 1965, Joyce Green Hospital,
Dartford, KentWILL, age 72 WILL |
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married
Q3 1915, Woolwich, Kent R/D, EDITH
FLORENCE LEVYBMD, daughter of William W. Levy, originally of
Birmingham, Warks, bridlecutter/viewer of saddlery, and Harriett A. GreenFAM |
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born 31 OCT 1890, Woolwich, Kent R/D |
died 15 APR 1972WILL, Bexley, Kent R/DBMD,
age 81 WILL |
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i |
nothing more
is known about Edith Florence Levy |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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ERIC LAURENCE WILLMORE |
18 JAN 1920, Woolwich, Kent R/D |
JUN 1993, Tunbridge Wells, Kent R/D, age
73 |
SEE BELOW |
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MARJORIE EDITH WILLMORE |
4 MAY 1922, Dartford, Kent R/D |
Q2 1972, Greenwich, Kent R/D, age 50 |
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EMMELINE CHARLOTTE WILLMORE |
GENERATION 5 |
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© |
born 16 JAN 1896DEATH BMD,
Bexleyheath, KentCENSUS, baptized 3 MAY 1896, Christ Church,
Bexleyheath, KentCERT |
died 25 AUG 1971WILL, Bexley, Kent R/DBMD,
age 75 WILL |
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married
18 SEP 1915, Christ Church, Bexleyheath, Kent, OSCAR SIDNEY MASON GRAVES, son of Sidney Albert Graves,
commercial clerkCERT |
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born 3 MAY 1891DEATH BMD |
died 14 MAR 1982WILL, Hammersmith, Middx R/DBMD,
age 90 WILL |
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nothing more
is known about Oscar Sidney Mason Graves |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
NOTES |
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MAURICE RUSSELL GRAVES |
© |
28 AUG 1919CERT,
DEATH BMD, Dartford, Kent R/DBMD, baptized 26 OCT 1919, Bexleyheath,
KentCERT |
died
23 NOV 1996WILL, Macclesfield, Cheshire R/DBMD, age 77 |
nothing more is known about them |
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DOUGLAS M. GRAVES |
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Q3 1929, Dartford,
Kent R/D |
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JAMES WILLIAM CAREW WILLIAMS’ CHILDREN |
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JAMES V(IVIAN?) C(AREW?) WILLIAMS |
GENERATION 6 |
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born Q2 1918BMD / 13 JUN 1918?DEATH
BMD, West Ham, Essex R/DBMD |
died 19 SEP 2006?WILL, Stafford, Staffs
R/D, age 88?BMD |
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married
Q3 1943, Stafford, Staffs R/D, MARGARET
I. WOODING?BMD |
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born ? |
died ? |
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i |
● the birth and marriage records
are for James V. C. Williams ● the death record and exact date
of birth are for James Vivian C. Williams ● the probate record is for James Vivian
Carew Williams ● as the name Carew was common in
this family, it is likely that this is him |
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●
nothing more is known about Margaret I. Wooding |
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1
DAUGHTER? – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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JANE ANN SMITH WILLIAMS’ CHILDREN |
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CHARLES EDMUND OGILVIE |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 1 SEP 1908DEATH BMD,
Bassett, Southampton, HantsCENSUS |
died 29 MAR 1993?WILL, Surrey
South Western R/D, age 84?BMD |
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married Q3 1955, Basingstoke, Hants R/D, ANNE MARIA MOOREBMD née ….. |
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born 4 JAN 1920DEATH BMD |
died NOV 1985, Basingstoke, Hants R/DBMD,
age 65 |
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● Anne Maria was a widow or
divorced, and had children from her previous marriageFAM ● nothing more is known about her |
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NO
CHILDREN |
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FREDERICK DENIS OGILVIE |
GENERATION 6 |
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born Q1 1912, Southampton, Hants R/DBMD |
? |
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married Q2 1948, West Ham, Essex R/D, ETHEL ROBINA SHAILER née WINCHESTER |
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born 29 DEC 1912DEATH BMD |
died 26
APR 1999WILL, West Surrey, Surrey R/DBMD, age 86 |
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●
the marriage record is for Dennis F. Ogilvie ●
his last known address was in Rayleigh, EssexFAM, but no death can
be found, for any of Frederick/Denis/Dennis Ogilvie |
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● Ethel Robina married (1) Q3 1933,
West Ham, Essex R/D, Arthur E. R. Shailer, born about 1907, died DEC 1965, St
Ives, Hunts R/D, presumably divorced, as an Arthur E. R. Shailer married (2?)
Q3 1949, Cambridge, Cambs R/D, Mabel I. SanfordBMD ● she had a daughterFAM,
Jean S. Shailer, born Q2 1934, West Ham, Essex R/DBMD ● she was known as Robi,
RubinaFAM ●
nothing more is known about her |
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NO
CHILDREN |
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GENERATION 6 |
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born 26 JUL 1913DEATH BMD, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD |
died 25 NOV 1983GRAVE,
Claro, Yorks R/DBMD, age 70 |
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married
Q3 1938, Wetherby, Yorks R/D, JAMES
ROBERT SWALESBMD, son of James Robert Swales and Mary Louisa
MyersFAM |
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born 15 FEB 1914DEATH BMD, Kirk Deighton,
YorksFAM |
died 21 MAY 1989GRAVE, WILL,
Claro, Yorks R/DBMD, age 75 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about James Robert Swales |
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1
DAUGHTER, 1 SON, 7 GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDRENBMD FAM – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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VIOLET FREDERICA WILLIAMS’ CHILDREN |
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MURIEL G. B.BMD / MURIEL GEORGIANNA BEATRIXFAM VIZARD |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 21 JUN 1914FAM, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD |
died 20 OCT 1998, King Edward VII Hospital, Castel, Guernsey, Channel
IslandsFAM, age 84 |
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married 3 DEC 1935, Castel, Guernsey,
Channel Islands, GEORGE ALBERT ROWE,
son of Edward James Rowe and Mary Louise DomailleFAM |
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born 7 JUL 1913, Guernsey, Channel IslandsFAM |
died 9 AUG 2000, Guernsey, Channel IslandsFAM,
age 87 |
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i |
nothing
more is known about George Albert Rowe |
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3
SONS, 2 DAUGHTERS, including JASMINE (1937-2005), also known as ROWAN JAMES,
an artist PHOTOS,
GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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FLORENCE ELLEN CAREW
WILLIAMS’ CHILDREN |
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GENERATION 6 |
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© |
born 7 APR 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD,
Kinson, Dorset CENSUS, baptized 6 MAY 1906, Kingstone[?], DorsetBMD |
died 16 MAR 1993, Bournemouth, HantsWILL,
age 86, buried St Andrew, Kinson, DorsetWWW.FINDAGRAVE.COM WILL |
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married Q2 1952, Bournemouth, Hants R/D, WILLIAM ROBERT ARNOLDMOTHER’s WILL, BMD, son of Robert Arnold,
dealer, and Elizabeth Emily –?BAPTISM CERT |
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© |
born 1894-5DEATH BMD / Q2 1894,
Poole, Dorset R/D?BMD / baptized 5 AUG 1894, Lytchett Minster,
Dorset?CERT |
died 18 JAN 1968GRAVE, Poole,
Dorset R/DBMD, age 73, buried St Andrew, Kinson, DorsetWWW.FINDAGRAVE.COM |
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i |
● in the 1939 Register Mary Louise’s surname
is shown as later Arnold, and the year 1955 has been added ● her mother’s probate details named “Mary
Louise Arnold (wife of Robert Arnold)”, but no marriage can be found with a
Robert Arnold ●
the gravestone shows William Robert Arnold and his wife Mary Louise ●
this is the only likely marriage in this area, although Mary Louise was 46 |
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●
nothing more is known about William Robert Arnold |
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CHILDREN? |
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BERTHA WOODGATE READ’s
CHILDREN |
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GENERATION 6 |
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born Q1 1911, Dartford, Kent R/DBMD |
died Q1 1967, Woolwich, Kent R/DBMD, age
56 |
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married
Q3 1937, Bromley, Kent R/D, EVELYN ISABEL
VIOLA PEAD?BMD, daughter of Charles James Pead and Isabel
Annie LawsFAM |
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born 5 FEB 1915DEATH BMD, Brentford,
Middx R/DBMD |
died 27 SEP 1973WILL, Sutton, Surrey R/DBMD,
age 58 WILL |
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nothing
more is known about Evelyn Isabel Viola Pead |
|
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2
DAUGHTERS, including possibly the GWINNELL, JOHNSON and McLEOD familiesBMD
– SEE NEXT PAGE |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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ANN E. H.
SYMONS |
Q4
1940, Bromley Kent R/DBMD |
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SEE
BELOW – to follow |
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CHRISTINE M.
SYMONS |
Q1
1942, Bromley, Kent R/DBMD |
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LAURENCE JAMES WILLMORE’s
CHILDREN |
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ERIC LAURENCE WILLMORE |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 18 JAN 1920, Woolwich, Kent R/D |
died JUN 1993, Tunbridge Wells, Kent
R/D, age 73 |
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married
Q1 1944, Dartford, Kent R/D, MAIR E.
BOWEN |
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born ? |
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nothing
more is known about Mair E. Bowen |
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@ |
Mair E. Willmore, Age guide 65+, 6 St Johns Hill, Sevenoaks, Kent, TN13 3NW,
Year 2002-14, Occupancy (years) 25ELECT |
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SON, 2 DAUGHTERS, GRANDCHILDREN, including the BREWER and LONGUET families – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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MARJORIE EDITH WILLMORE |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 4 MAY 1922, Dartford, Kent R/D |
died Q2 1972, Greenwich, Kent R/D, age 50 |
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married
Q2 1946, Dartford, Kent R/D, VICTOR
DONALD FINCH, son of – Finch and – Skuse |
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born 4 MAR 1920, West Ham, Essex R/D |
died 15 AUG 1991WILL, Eastbourne, Sussex
R/D, age 71 WILL |
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nothing more
is known about Victor Donald Finch |
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2
SONS, GRANDCHILDREN – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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HENRY JOHN MICHAEL SMITH
"Harry"'s CHILDREN |
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JOHN WILLIAM MICHAEL SMITH
"Jack" |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 6 MAR 1927, Manly, New South Wales,
AustraliaFAM |
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married Australia?GUESS, GENEVIEVE
--FAM |
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born ? |
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nothing more is known about Genevieve -- |
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CHILDREN |
BORN |
NOTES |
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BERNADINE SMITH |
1950's?, Australia?GUESS |
nothing more is known about them |
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FRAN(CES?) SMITH |
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MAREE SMITH |
SEE BELOW |
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CARMEL SMITH |
1950's?, Australia?GUESS |
died ? |
nothing more is known about them |
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AMY SMITH |
1950's?, Australia?GUESS |
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KEVIN SMITH |
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EDMUND MICHAEL SMITH "Ted" |
GENERATION 6 |
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BRYAN GREGORY SMITH |
GENERATION 6 |
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JOHN WILLIAM MICHAEL
SMITH "Jack"'s CHILDREN |
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FRAN(CES?) SMITH |
GENERATION 7 |
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born 1950's?, Australia?GUESS |
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married Australia?GUESS, -- BYRNEFAM |
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born ? |
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● Fran(ces?) is Learning Support Officer,
Stella Maris College, Manly, New South Wales, AustraliaFAM 2016 |
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● nothing more is known about -- Byrne |
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CHILDREN? |
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NOTES: Roman numerals after a person’s name,
eg. William I, are purely to
distinguish different people with the same name R/D = Registration District R/O = Register Office (for an explanation
of these two terms, see homepage) © =
certificate available ₪ = items from the
newspapers i
= odd notes ●
SOURCE ABBREVIATIONS: BMD
online birth/marriage/death indexes CENSUS
various census records CERT
birth/marriage/death certificate ELECT
electoral registers FAM
family sources IGI
International Genealogical Index (not always completely reliable) WILL will/letters of
administration/probate details COMMENTS
AND CORRECTIONS WELCOMED IN PARTICULAR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW
OF ANY LINKS THAT DON’T WORK FOR
CONTACT ADDRESS SEE HOMEPAGE |
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