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IMPORTANT: THE AUTHOR HAS TAKEN THE ANCESTRY.COM DNA TEST IF ANYBODY READING THIS HAS ALSO DONE SO, OR IS
THINKING OF DOING SO, PERHAPS THEY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH ME, AT (MY SURNAME)@TELETU.IT |
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The DNA test has shown that the Author, who is descended from
THOMAS GAY, and a great-grandson in New Zealand of EMILY LOUISA GAY PRANGLEY, who is descended from ISAAC REDMAN GAY I, himself possibly a son of JAMES GAY I - are related The Author has therefore identified a possible
joint ancestor for THOMAS and JAMES as GEORGE GAY I This is of course partly speculation, but backed
up by DNA evidence |
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Following the discovery of a possible new
generation 1 with George Gay I, all other generation
numbers have been increased by 1 The generation numbers shown below are the new
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SEE NOTES AT THE END
OF THE PAGE |
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GAY FAMILY HISTORY |
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EPHRAIM GAY’s family |
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THE GAY FAMILY,
BROUGHTON GIFFORD, WILTSHIRE including THE PIPER FAMILY, MORTLAKE,
SURREY, HILLINGDON, MIDDLESEX, and READING, BERKSHIRE THE DAY FAMILY, WILTSHIRE THE FOWLES FAMILY, BRISTOL,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE?/BATH, SOMERSET |
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● possible connection
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GENERATIONS
ARE NUMBERED FROM THE POSSIBLE FIRST TRACED ANCESTOR, GEORGE GAY I (born about 1700’s?), AND HAVE THE FOLLOWING
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4 |
7 |
10 |
13 |
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5 |
8 |
11 |
14 |
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6 |
9 |
12 |
15 |
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[3G07] JAMES GAY II’s CHILDREN (continued) EPHRAIM GAY’s FAMILY |
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4G05 |
EPHRAIM
GAY |
GENERATION 4 |
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© |
born about 1827, Broughton
Gifford, WiltsCENSUS |
© |
died 17 JAN 1885, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT, age 58 |
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married (1) 28 NOV 1849, Parish Church, Bradford
on Avon, Wilts, ANN EARL, daughter
of James Earl,
cloth worker, and Catherine -- |
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born about 1826,
Holt, Wilts |
died 1861~71 |
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married (2) 14 JAN 1871, Independent
Chapel, Holt, Wilts, CHARLOTTE FOX,
daughter of Richard Wansey West Fox and Sabina
Lasbury |
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born 23 JUN? 1848,
Bradford, Wilts |
© |
died 24 DEC 1927, Ealing, MiddxCERT, age 79, buried
30 DEC 1927, Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD [died
of chronic nephritis] |
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● The National Archives hold the
following documents: a) Ephraim Gay, born Wiltshire:
Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Woolwich 1847 (when aged
21), Discharged [discharge date not given] as [discharge reason not given]. b) Ephraim Gay, born: Broughton,
Wiltshire; Age at attestation: 21; Attested: Woolwich; Joined in: 1847;
Discharge reason: Paid £20; Discharge year: 1850 (does this mean he PAID £20
to get OUT of the Royal Marines?) ● this would make him born around 1826 ● in his first marriage certificate, 1849,
he is described as a Marine |
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● the fact that he married the
first time in the Parish Church, but second time in an Independent Chapel,
suggests leanings towards the family’s eventual membership of the Plymouth
Brethren – see GEORGE EDWARD GAY, BELOW ● the family moved to Bath,
Somerset, 1891~1901CENSUS, so leaving Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
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● there was another EPHRAIM GAY in
Wiltshire at the same time, born about 1822, Staverton,
Wilts, son of Ned Gay, married 24 DEC 1843, Trowbridge, Wilts, RUTH RICKETTS,
daughter of John Ricketts, weaver ©,
died 17 APR 1889 ©, Plymouth, Devon, variously described
as cloth worker, agricultural labourer, saw sharpener, children Eliza,
William – no apparent connection ● a great-granddaughter writes “I
had heard that Charlotte Gay had been very poor and was "on the
Parish" (receiving parochial relief), as Corsham
is nearby and Auntie Vicky [Charlotte’s grandson Frederick Ephraim Alfred
Day’s wife, Nancy Victoria Fitzgerald Day] had once sent me a postcard with a
picture of her home on it |
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● nothing more is known about Ann
Earl |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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5G19 |
ALBERT JAMES GAY II |
© |
8 JUL 1856, Holt, WiltsCERT,
baptized 26 OCT 1856, Holt, WiltsCERT |
14
JUN 1917, Corsham, WiltsWILL,
age 60 WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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5G20 |
RUTH GAY II |
12 FEB 1859, Holt, Wilts |
25
DEC 1906, Great Northern Hospital, Kings Cross, MiddxWILL,
age 47 WILL |
● unmarried ● nothing more is known about her |
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5G21 |
JOHN GAY VI |
18 JUN?
1872,
Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
31 JAN 1942. Australia, age 69, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia |
SEE BELOW |
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5G22 |
13 JAN 1874CERT, CENSUS,
Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT |
11
JUN 1954, Yiewsley, West Drayton, MiddxWILL, age 80 WILL |
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5G23 |
EDITH GAY II |
20 NOV 1875, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT |
3 DEC 1947, Drummuir Nursing Home, Northfield, Bridgwater,
SomersetWILL, age 72 WILL |
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5G24 |
ELLEN GAY III "Nell" |
9 DEC 1877CENSUS, Broughton
Gifford, WiltsCERT |
Q4 1954, Bristol, Glos R/D, age 76?BMD |
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5G25 |
ARTHUR GAY |
22 SEP 1879, Broughton
Gifford, Wilts |
? |
nothing more is known about him |
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5G26 |
FREDERICK GEORGE GAY II |
16 JUN 1881, Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
7 JUN 1905, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 23
[died of autonæmia diabetes] |
● unmarried? ● nothing more is known about him |
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5G27 |
HENRY GAY III |
28 AUG 1882CERT, CENSUS,
Broughton Gifford, WiltsCENSUS |
26 MAR 1947FAM, Brentford,
Middx R/DBMD, age 64, buried 31 MAR 1947,
Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD
WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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5G28 |
25 MAR 1884, Broughton Gifford,
Wilts |
5 FEB 1954, Ealing, MiddxCERT,
age 69, buried 10 FEB 1954, Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD [died of myocarditis, diabetes, bronchitisCERT] WILL |
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EPHRAIM GAY’s CHILDREN |
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5G19 |
ALBERT
JAMES GAY II |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 8 JUL 1856, Holt, WiltsCERT, baptized 26 OCT 1856, Holt, WiltsCERT |
died
14 JUN 1917, Corsham, WiltsWILL,
age 60 WILL |
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married 31 OCT 1891, Baptist Chapel, Hilperton, Wilts, MARY JANE HORNERCERT, his cousin, daughter of Thomas
Horner and Charlotte(a) Gay II |
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baptized 8 JAN 1860, Broughton
Gifford, Wilts |
died Q4 1908, Melksham,
Wilts, R/D, age 50 |
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CHILDREN? ● no children
by 1911 census |
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5G21 |
JOHN GAY VI |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 18 JUN? 1872, Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
died 31 JAN 1942, Australia, age 69,
buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia |
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married 16 DEC 1893,
Melksham R/O, Wilts, LYDIA ALFORD later SAWYER,
daughter of Samuel Sawyer?,
agricultural labourerCERT and Hannah Alford….. |
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born 9 JUL 1871, Whitley, Wilts |
died 5 OCT 1951,
Australia, age 80, buried Karrakatta Cemetery,
Perth, Australia |
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● John
emigrated to Canada in 1900, with Lydia, Spenser Fox and Bernard John, but
not Frederick, returned to England DEC 1911, having sailed from Portland,
Oregon, USA, and emigrated again to Australia in 1912, with Frederick as wellPASSENGER LISTS ● for the
Australian family, see http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/a/d/a/Edward-J-Adair/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html#Gay,
although this site does contain some errors and omissions |
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● Samuel Sawyer and Hannah Alford were not
married until a year after Lydia was born, so her father might have been
someone else – see below ● the above site has Lydia as Lydia Maud
Sawyer, but the name Maud doesn’t occur anywhere else, and it has
not been possible to contact the author of the site to check this point |
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● there is a
family story that there is some connection to the family of Earl Spencer, Princess Diana’s family
– nothing more is known, and the story doesn’t specifically mention this
family, but certainly Spenser (Spencer) Fox’s name is strange – Fox is his
paternal grandmother’s maiden name – could Spencer be the name of his maternal
grandfather, ie. Lydia Alford later Sawyer’s real
father? Why else would Lydia have called her son Spencer? No connection with
the Spencers have been found in the official
records, but other records might tell otherwise. The story also mentions Australia,
where the family certainly emigrated to |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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6G29 |
FREDERICK GAY V |
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about 1894….. |
?, Australia? |
● he emigrated to Australia with John
and Lydia in 1912, but not to Canada in 1900 ● there are no Fredericks in the 1901
census in England as boarders, relatives, etc ● so it is unclear whether he was John
and Lydia’s son, and not a relative ● a Frederick George Gay and a Frederick
Joseph Gay were both born in 1895 in Bradford, Wilts R/D, but their mother's
maiden names were Bodman and Huntley ● no Frederick Gays, mother's
maiden name Sawyer, were born in this period ● a relative in Australia comments
however "he died without heirs" ● nothing more is known about him |
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6G30 |
SPENSER (SPENCER) FOX GAY |
© |
21 APR 1894, Trowbridge, Wilts |
7 MAY 1964, Willunga?,
South AustraliaBMD, age 70 |
SEE BELOW |
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6G31 |
BERNARD JOHN GAY |
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6 DEC 1895?, Berkhamstead,
Herts |
19 SEP….. 1959, Perth, Western
AustraliaBMD, age 63, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia |
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5G22 |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 13 JAN 1874CERT, CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT |
died
11 JUN 1954, Yiewsley, West Drayton, MiddxWILL, age 80 WILL |
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married Q4 1892,
Richmond, Surrey R/D, SAMUEL CHARLES PIPERBMD,
son of Edward Piper, grocer, and Sarah Hamblin |
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born 14 JUN 1870CENSUS,
Barnes, SurreyCENSUS |
died
11 FEB 1955, St Bernards Hospital, Southall. MiddxWILL,
age 84 WILL |
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● unlike other
members of the Gay family, Frances Emily was Baptist, and Samuel Charles MethodistFAM ● their
granddaughter says she believes they went their separate ways on a Sunday
morning ● she knows that their daughter
Frances Amy and Olive May, their son Edward George's wife, used to visit
their Gay relatives in Ealing, and drank their tea in a separate room ● and thinks she remember Frances
Amy saying that the Ealing contingent became dissatisfied with the Plymouth
Brethren and became Exclusive Brethren |
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● nothing more
is known about Samuel Charles Piper |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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6G32 |
SAMUEL JOHN PIPER |
Q1 1895BMD, Mortlake,
SurreyCENSUS |
Q1 1938, Wandsworth,
Surrey R/DBMD, age 42 [his niece thinks
he died of some kind of complications from having meningitis as a child - he
also suffered from epilepsyFAM] |
● his niece is almost certain that
John did not marry ● from the little his sister said
he probably had mental health issues ● nothing more is known about him |
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6G33 |
6 OCT 1897CENSUS, Mortlake, SurreyCENSUS |
28 MAR 1958, Yiewsley,
MiddxWILL, age 60 WILL
[died of lung cancerFAM] |
SEE BELOW |
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6G34 |
IRENE ISABEL PIPER |
Q1 1900, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD |
Q1 1900, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD,
age 0 |
nothing more is known about her |
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6G35 |
LILIAN DOROTHY PIPER |
31 MAR 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD,
Hillingdon Heath, MiddxCENSUS |
5 DEC 1996WILL, Barnstaple,
Devon R/DBMD, age 90 |
SEE BELOW |
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6G36 |
FRANCES AMY PIPER |
28 JUL 1913CENSUS, Spencers Wood, Reading, BerksFAM |
7 OCT 1987FAM, Hillingdon,
Middx R/DBMD, age 74 [died from problems
with her heart as a complication from the rheumatic fever she had as a childFAM] |
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whom 1 died before |
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5G23 |
EDITH GAY II |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 20 NOV 1875, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT |
died 3 DEC 1947, Drummuir
Nursing Home, Northfield, Bridgwater, SomersetWILL,
age 72 WILL |
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married Q3 1899,
Bath, Somerset, EDWIN FERRIS DAY,
son of Lot Winslow
Day, postman, and Ruth Ferris |
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born 31 OCT 1864CENSUS,
Corsham, WiltsCENSUS |
died (Q3?) 1945, Weston,
Somerset R/D?, age about 81 |
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nothing more is
known about Edwin Ferris Day |
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DIED |
NOTES |
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6G37 |
EDITH THEODORA DAY “Cousin Dora” |
11 MAR 1900CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS |
4 MAY 1982WILL, Barnstaple,
Devon R/DBMD, age 82 WILL |
● unmarried ● lived as Edith Mary Hood Gay’s
(her aunt) companion for years ● nothing more is known about her |
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6G38 |
26 JAN 1902CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS |
9 JUN 1986WILL, Bridgwater, SomersetFAM, age 84 WILL |
SEE BELOW |
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6G39 |
FREDERICK EPHRAIM ALFRED DAY “Cousin Fred” |
14 AUG 1913DEATH BMD, Chippenham, Wilts R/DBMD |
19 APR 1999WILL, Nottingham,
Notts R/D, age 85, buried Biddestone, SomersetFAM |
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alive |
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5G24 |
ELLEN
GAY III
"Nell" |
GENERATION 5 |
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born 9 DEC 1877CENSUS, Broughton Gifford,
WiltsCERT |
died Q4 1954, Bristol, Glos R/D, age 76?BMD |
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married Q2 1903,
Bath, Somerset, HENRY FOWLES, son of William Fowles?,
and Sophia Targett? |
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born 11 JUN 1875CENSUS.
Bath, SomersetCENSUS |
died Q2 1966,
Bristol, Glos R/D, age 90?BMD |
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nothing more is
known about Henry Fowles |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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● a family source said that this family were
all born in Bristol, Glos, but records show Bath,
Somerset R/D |
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6G40 |
3 MAR 1904DEATH BMD,
Bristol, Glos?FAM / Twerton,
SomersetCENSUS / Bath, Somerset R/DBMD |
Q2 1976, Hounslow, Middx R/DBMD,
age 72 |
SEE BELOW |
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6G41 |
FREDA IRENE GRACE FOWLES |
19 MAY 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD,
Twerton, Somerset CENSUS |
9 MAY 1992WILL, Bristol, Glos, age 86 WILL |
● unmarried ● nothing more is known about her |
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6G42 |
LOIS FOWLES |
19 NOV 1907CENSUS, DEATH BMD,
Twerton, Somerset CENSUS |
9 MAR 1980, California, USABMD, age 72 |
SEE BELOW |
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6G43 |
MARION EDNA G. FOWLES |
22 APR 1916CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD |
21 JUN 1993WILL, Bristol, Glos
R/DBMD, age 77 WILL |
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● total 3 children by 1911 census, all
alive |
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5G27 |
HENRY
GAY III |
GENERATION 5 |
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© |
born 28 AUG 1882CERT, CENSUS,
Broughton Gifford, Wilts CENSUS |
died 26 MAR 1947FAM,
Brentford, Middx R/DBMD, age 64, buried
31 MAR 1947, Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD
WILL |
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married 30 APR 1910,
Bath R/O, Somerset, EDITH MARY HOOD,
daughter of Cornelius
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born 6 OCT 1890CENSUS,
DEATH BMD, Stoke Bishop, Glos |
died 20 JUL 1980, Heathermoor Nursing Home, Park Lane, Barnstaple, DevonWILL, age 89, buried 24 JUL 1980 WILL |
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i |
● Henry and
George Edward went to Canada, arriving APR 1906 on the PARISIAN (steerage) ● on 7 AUG 1906 they crossed the border
into the USA at Detroit, bound for Indianapolis, Indiana ● George
Edward returned to the UK, arriving 20 JAN 1908 at Liverpool on the CAMPANIA
(3rd class), but Henry is not listedPASSENGER
LISTS ● unfortunately,
the reason for their choosing Indianapolis is unknown – although their elder
brother was living in Canada at that time, there is no evidence that they
went to see, or stayed with, him – they did not give any addresses or names
of relatives ● the date for
Henry’s return to the UK has not been
found yet ● the reason
for this trip of several months is unknown – it can only be surmised that
they went with a view to emigrating, but changed their minds ● George
Edward’s daughter Monica Lillian thought they MAY have gone more than once,
but so far only one trip has been found, and if they went with a view to
emigrating but changed their minds, they would hardly have made more than one
trip |
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● Henry and
Edith Mary eventually moved to Ealing, Middx, sometime between 1911CENSUS
and 1921LILLY MAY BUNKER GAY’S DEATH CERTIFICATE ● sometime
before 1939PHONE BOOK, CENSUS they moved to a big house at 101 The
Avenue, which for years was almost a “family home” for their “grandchildren” |
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● together
with his brother George Edward, Henry set up GAY
BROTHERS, an engineering firm |
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● Henry and
Edith Mary brought up George Edward’s children after the latter’s 1st
wife died |
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● Edith Mary visited
the USA in 1952 - 45 years after her husband - departing 29 APR, arriving New
York 5 MAY, and returning from Quebec, Canada, arriving 14 AUG ● on her US
immigration form she stated she was visiting relatives (an E. A. Hood) in
California, so it is unknown whether she visited any Gay relatives in the USA
or Canada ● she
travelled with a Charlotte R. Hunter of 26 College Close, Harrow Weald,
Middx, housewife, age 65 (so born about 1887) ● in the
1926-36 Electoral Registers Albert and Charlotte R. Hunter were living at 40
St Kilda’s Road, Harrow, Middx ● Edith Mary
had a sister, Charlotte Rachel Hood, born Q3 1886, Stoke Bishop, Glos –
Charlotte R. Hood married Q4 1919, Uckfield, Sussex
R/D, Albert Hunter, and at least 4 Hunter children, mother’s maiden name
Hood, were born 1920-5 in Uckfield, Sussex R/D –
one of these was Maurice Hunter, born Q2 1924 – family sources say Henry
Gay’s niece, Marion Fowles, born 1916, married a Morris Hunter, so there MAY be some
connection, or this MAY just be a coincidence – no Hunter/Fowles
marriage has been found ● so it looks
as though the 2 Hood sisters went to California to see their (Hood) relatives (all this
information taken from BMD, CENSUS, PASSENGER
LISTS) |
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● in old age,
Edith Mary and her companion, her husband’s niece, Edith Theodora Day, both
moved to Barnstaple to be near the Day family ● Edith Mary
died in the Park Lane Nursing Home a little while later ● Edith
Theodora continued to live in their house until her deathFAM |
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1882 |
birth certificate |
Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
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1891 |
census |
at home, Boughton
Street, Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
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at home, 1
Fairfield View, Bath, Somerset |
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1910 |
marriage certificate |
51 Coronation Avenue, Bath, Somerset |
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census |
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1921 |
Lilly MAY Bunker
Gay’s death certificate |
70 Deans Road, Hanwell,
Middx |
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1926 |
electoral register |
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137 Leighton Road, Ealing, Middx |
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1929 |
will |
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1934+ |
phone book |
213 Boston Manor Road, Brentford, Middx |
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1935-7 |
electoral register |
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about 1938 |
they must have moved |
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1939 |
1939 Register,
electoral register, phone book |
101 The Avenue, Ealing, Middx |
a curiosity: in the
electoral registers and on old Ordnance Survey maps, there is no number 103
The Avenue - the number must have been kept free for the land where the
double garage was, where there's now the new double fronted house - so their
property must have been counted as occupying 2 parcels of land |
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1939 until death |
phone book |
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Edith Mary at the same address |
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1980 |
probate record |
Edith Mary’s home address Heathermoor Nursing Home, Park Lane, Barnstaple, Devon as her niece and
companion Edith Theodora Day’s probate record gives her address as 2 Pill
Lane, Barnstaple, Devon, and as the latter’s niece writes that she “continued
to live in their [shared] house until her death”, this presumably was also
Edith Mary’s last home |
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GENERATION 5 |
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© |
born 25 MAR 1884,
Broughton, WiltsCERT |
© |
died 5 FEB 1954, Ealing, MiddxCERT, age 69, buried 10 FEB 1954, Ealing
& Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD
[died of myocarditis, diabetes, bronchitisCERT]
WILL |
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married (1) 20 MAY 1909,
Bath R/O, Somerset, LILLY MAY BUNKER,
daughter of Joseph Bunker VIII and Elizabeth Arnold II |
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born 9 MAY 1882, Painswick, Glos |
© |
died 5 DEC 1921,
Ealing, MiddxCERT, age 39, buried 7 DEC 1921,
South Ealing Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxCEMETERY
RECORDS [died of diphtheria] |
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married (2) 14 APR 1934,
Brentford R/O, Middx, MURIEL ETHEL
SMITH, daughter of Robert William
Smith, builderCERT, and Elizabeth ParkerBMD |
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born 18 APR 1888CENSUS,
Bayswater, MiddxCENSUS |
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died 24 OCT 1968WILL, Ealing, Middx R/DBMD, age 80, buried 30 OCT 1968, Ealing &
Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD
WILL |
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● see notes
under George Edward’s brother Henry’s entry re their trip to the USA |
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● George
Edward and Lilly MAY moved to Redhill, Surrey
1909~11CENSUS, then eventually to Ealing, Middx 1912~13CHILDREN’s
BMD |
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● together
with his brother Henry he set up GAY
BROTHERS, an engineering firm |
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● there was
an outbreak of diphtheria in 1921, and Lilly May, and their children Philip
Lawrence and Eunice Margaret, all died ● the other
children were brought up by George Edward’s brother Henry
and his wife Edith Mary ● Lilly May’s
father, Joseph Bunker VIII, appeared in court in 1883 for not
having had her vaccinated – his 2xgreat-granddaughter comments: it'd
be ironic if it was the vaccination against diptheria,
that being what she died of less than 40 years later, in his own lifetime! |
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● George
Edward belonged to the PLYMOUTH BRETHREN
religious sect, so his daughters had a strict upbringing, and had little
contact with their non-Plymouth Brethren relatives, which is why we know
little about the latter ● George
Edward’s great-niece writes “I think that the first Plymouth Brethren were the
Gay brothers and my Granny Day [their sister Edith Gay Day]. Certainly my
parents were, and also Auntie Dora [Edith Theodora Day]. My maternal
grandparents also became Plymouth Brethren, and that is how my parents met” |
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● Lilly MAY was
an artist, like her father ► BUNKER FAMILY PHOTOS |
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@ |
1884 |
birth certificate |
Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
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1891 |
census |
at home, Boughton
Street, Broughton Gifford, Wilts |
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1901 |
at home, 1
Fairfield View, Bath, Somerset |
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1909 |
marriage certificate |
92 Regent Road,
Salford, Somerset (Regent Road, Salford cannot be found on Google, neither
can Salford – the latter might really be Saltford, west
of Bath, but
no Regent Road can be found in that village) |
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1911 |
census |
“Shaftesbury”, 13 Althorne
Road, Earlswood, Surrey |
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1912 |
children’s birth
certificates |
13 Althorne
Road, Redhill, Surrey |
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1913 |
66 Deans Road, Hanwell,
Middx |
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1918 |
7 Camborne Avenue, Ealing, Middx |
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1921 |
census |
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wife’s death
certificate |
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1926 |
Electoral Register |
70 Deans Road, Hanwell,
Middx |
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1927 |
mother’s death
certificate |
137 Leighton Road, Ealing, Middx |
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Electoral Register |
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phone book |
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1939 until death |
“Wyke”, 12
Warwick Road, Ealing, Middx |
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1954 |
death certificate |
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until 1968 |
phone book, probate record |
Muriel Ethel at the same address |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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6G44 |
PHILIP LAWRENCE GAY |
© |
2 MAR 1912, Redhill, Surrey |
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Q4 1921, Ealing, Middx, age 9, buried 25 NOV
1921, South Ealing Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxCEMETERY RECORDS [died of diphtheria] |
nothing more is known about him |
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6G45 |
GRACE
RUBY GAY “Gracie” |
14 OCT 1913, Hanwell, Middx |
© |
19 DEC 1993, West Wimbledon, Surrey, age
80FAM, cremated 7 JAN 1994, North East Surrey Crematorium, Morden,
Surrey FAM |
SEE BELOW |
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6G46 |
RUTH MILDRED GAY “Billie” |
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23 OCT 1914, Brentford,
Middx R/D |
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20 MAR 1999WILL, Kingston upon
Thames, SurreyFAM, age 84, cremated ….. |
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6G47 |
FRANCES MARY GAY “Frankie” |
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9 APR 1916, Brentford, Middx R/D |
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11 JAN 1998WILL, Surrey
Northern R/DBMD, age 81 |
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6G48 |
EUNICE MARGARET GAY |
© |
4 AUG 1918, Ealing, Middx |
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Q4 1921, Ealing, Middx, age 3, buried 29 NOV
1921, South Ealing Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxCEMETERY RECORDS [died of
diphtheria] |
nothing more is known about them |
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6G49 |
STEPHEN MARTIN GAY |
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8 FEB 1920, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD |
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6 NOV 1933, Ealing, Middx, age 13, buried
9 NOV 1933, Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxBMD
[died of TB] |
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6G50 |
MONICA LILLIAN GAY |
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30 JUN 1921FAM, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD |
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16 JAN 2013, Kingston upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 92, cremated |
SEE BELOW |
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[5G21] JOHN GAY VI’s CHILDREN AUSTRALIA |
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6G30 |
SPENSER (SPENCER) FOX GAY |
GENERATION 6 |
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© |
born 21 APR
1894, Trowbridge, WiltsCERT |
died 7 MAY 1964, Willunga?,
South AustraliaBMD, age 70 |
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married 12 SEP 1921,
Perth, Western Australia, CATHERINE
AGNES WALKER, daughter of daughter of John Walker and Catherine MacDonald MacLennanFAM ► THE WALKER FAMILY ● it has not
been possible to contact the author of this site, so no guarantee can be
given for the accuracy of the site |
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born 13 JUL 1891, Kilbirnie, Ayrshire Scotland |
died 1952, Perth,
Western Australia, age 60, buried Karrakatta
Cemetery, Perth, Western Australia |
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i |
● SPENSER is
the name in the birth certificate, his legal name, even if, let’s suppose,
his parents wanted to call him SPENCER, and the name was just miswritten! ● however, in
other online records, the name is written as both SPENSER and SPENCER |
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● as Catherine
Agnes’ sister, Isabel MacDonald
Walker, also died in Perth, perhaps they emigrated together ● nothing more
is known about her |
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DIED |
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7G16 |
JOHN SPENCER WALKER GAY “Jack” |
24 JUN 1922/4, Perth, Western Australia |
22 JUL 1997FAM,
Australia?, age 73-5 |
SEE BELOW |
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7G17 |
BERNARD ALFORD
GAY
“Bunny” |
6 MAY 1923, Murray, Western
Australia |
8 DEC 1942, HMAS
Armidale, Timor Sea, age 19, commemorated Plymouth
Naval Memorial Cemetery, Devon, England (WW2 casualty) |
● moved to Tasmania or S. AustraliaFAM ● nothing more is known about him |
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7G18 |
FRANCIS PATRICK GAY “Franny” |
24 JUL 1924, Australia |
17 JUN 1956….. / 1955,
Perth, Western AustraliaBMD, age 31 |
nothing more is known about him |
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7G19 |
JAMES ALLEN GAY “Allen” |
21 AUG 1926, Perth, Western Australia |
17 JUL 1979, Hobart, Tasmania,
Australia, age 52, cremated Selfs Point, Hobart,
buried Cornelian Bay Cemetery, Hobart, Tasmania |
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6G31 |
BERNARD JOHN GAY |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 6 DEC
1895?, Berkhamstead, Herts |
died 19 SEP 1959, Perth, Western AustraliaBMD, age 63, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia |
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married 1926,
Perth, Australia, DOROTHY LANDER |
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born about 1908? |
died 1997,
Australia?, age 89?, buried Karrakatta Cemetery,
Perth, Australia? |
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i |
● Bernard John
founded a plant nursery in Gosnells known as B.J. Gay, now Sunnyvale Nursery, which still exists and
is still run by the family |
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is known about Dorothy Lander |
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7G20 |
4 CHILDREN, 6 GRANDCHILDREN, 8
GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND - SEE
NEXT PAGE |
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7G21 |
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[5G22] FRANCES
EMILY GAY’s CHILDREN THE PIPER FAMILY, MORTLAKE,
SURREY, HILLINGON, MIDDLESEX, and READING,
BERKSHIRE |
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6G33 |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 6 OCT 1897CENSUS, Mortlake, SurreyCENSUS |
died 28 MAR 1958, Yiewsley,
MiddxWILL, age 60 WILL
[died of lung cancerFAM] |
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married Q4 1928,
Weymouth, Dorset R/D, OLIVE MAY CONSTABLEBMD,
HUSBAND’s WILL |
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born 27 DEC 1907CENSUS, DEATH BMD |
Q2 1976, Lambeth, Surrey R/DBMD.
age 68 |
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nothing more is
known about Olive M ay Constable |
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7G24 |
4 CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, including
the HENLEY, HALLIGAN and KEEGEL
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6G35 |
LILIAN DOROTHY PIPER |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 31 MAR 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Hillingdon Heath, MiddxCENSUS |
died 5 DEC 1996WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 90 |
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married Q4 1927,
Uxbridge, Middx R/D, LESLIE ALBERT POPEBMD |
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born 26 DEC 1904CENSUS, DEATH BMD |
died 18 NOV 1976WILL,
Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 71 WILL |
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nothing more is
known about Leslie Albert Pope |
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7G28 |
1 SON, GRANDCHILD(REN)
– SEE NEXT PAGE |
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6G36 |
FRANCES AMY PIPER |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 28 JUL 1913CENSUS, Spencers Wood, Reading, BerksFAM |
died 7 OCT 1987FAM,
Hillingdon, Middx R/DBMD, age 74 [died
from problems with her heart as a complication from the rheumatic fever she
had as a childFAM] |
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married Q4 1931,
Uxbridge, Middx R/D, WILLIAM GEORGE
HARRIS/STEPHENSBMD,
son of – Harris and Lilian --, separated |
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born 13 JAN 1912CENSUS |
died JUN 1999, Hillingdon, Middlesex R/D, age 87?BMD |
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● Frances Amy
was born above the grocery shop that her parents owned in Spencers
Wood, now a suburb of Reading, BerksFAM |
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● although there is only 1 marriage record online, with William
G. Harris, there are 2 death entries for
her, as Francis Amy Harris and Francis Amy Stephens ● likewise, there is only 1 birth record for her daughters,
under Harris, but 2 marriage entries, under Harris and Stephens |
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● William
George’s daughter says: “Grandma Lilian [Stephens]
owned a large plot of land from which she ran kennels. She built herself a
rather grand house and there were two bungalows, one for us and one for aunt
Marguerite. Marguerite married [1949] Jim Taylor who played football for
Fulham. Their wedding was a very well attended affair with most of Yiewsley turning out to see Tommy Trinder
and well known footballers of the time” ● the death
record is for William George Stephens, born 13 JAN 1912 ● nothing more
is known about him |
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2 DAUGHTERS, GRANDCHILDREN, including
the J--- and R---- families – SEE NEXT PAGE |
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[5G23] EDITH GAY’s CHILDREN THE DAY FAMILY, WILTSHIRE |
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6G38 |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 26 JAN 1902CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS |
died 9 JUN 1986WILL,
Bridgwater, SomersetFAM, age 84 WILL |
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married Q3 1939,
Ashton, Lancs R/D, EILEEN SHEILA McILWAINBMD,
daughter of Samuel McIlwain, shed groom, and Annie,
both IrishCENSUS |
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born 11 JUL 1910DEATH BMD,
Whitchurch ShropshireCENSUS |
died 6 SEP 1994WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 84 |
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● their
daughter writes “Samuel McIlwain’s family had a
farm in Ballynahinch, County Down. However when his
mother died his father remarried and the first family had to leave so that
the second family had the farm. I have always felt sad about that - it must
have been very hard for him and his siblings” ● also “Although
Grandmother [Annie -- McIlwain] came from Southern
Ireland she was a Protestant, but I am not sure at what stage in their
marriage they became Plymouth Brethren - anyway, that is how my parents met” ● nothing more
is known about Eileen Sheila McIlwain |
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7G31 |
4 DAUGHTERS, 1 SON, GRANDCHILDREN,
including the DAVIS familyFAM, BMD- SEE NEXT PAGE |
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FREDERICK EPHRAIM ALFRED DAY “Cousin Fred”FAM |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 14 AUG 1913DEATH BMD, Chippenham, Wilts R/DBMD |
died 19 APR 1999WILL,
Nottingham, Notts R/D, age 85, buried Biddestone, SomersetFAM |
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married Q2 1940,
Richmond R/D (see below), NANCY
VICTORIA FITZGERALDBMD
“Vicky”FAM,
daughter of – Fitzgerald and – Dickinson?BMD |
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born 30 NOV 1914CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Lewisham, Kent R/D?BMD |
died FEB 1999, Bath and North East
Somerset R/DBMD, age 84, buried Biddestone, SomersetFAM |
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● there were 2
Richmond R/Ds, in Surrey and Yorkshire – the one in Surrey was incorporated
into Surrey Northern R/D in 1934, so the marriage must have taken place in
the Yorkshire one ● Frederick
Ephraim Alfred and Nancy Victoria moved to Biddestone,
near Bath, Somerset, in their retirement (he had worked all over the world
prior to that), and were both buried thereFAM ● their niece writes “I do not remember where [their son] C. was
born. All I remember from Auntie Dora [Edith Theodora Day] was that Auntie
Vicky had gone for a hysterectomy only to find that she was pregnant! The
result of that being C. Must have been a shock” |
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● Nancy
Victoria Fitzgerald “Vicky” was of Irish descent and a Catholic, which was
frowned upon by the Plymouth Brethren family (see GEORGE EDWARD GAY, above)
into which she married ● nothing more
is known about her |
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7G36 |
3 SONS, GRANDCHILDRENFAM,
BMD - SEE NEXT PAGE |
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[5G24] ELLEN GAY III’s CHILDREN THE FOWLES FAMILY,
BRISTOL, GLOS?/ BATH, SOMERSET |
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6G40 |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 3 MAR 1904DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos?FAM
/ Twerton, SomersetCENSUS
/ Bath, Somerset R/DBMD |
died Q2 1976, Hounslow, Middx R/DBMD,
age 72 |
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married Q3 1933,
West Ham, Essex R/D, MERCY GRACE BRADFORDBMD |
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born 24 DEC 1904CENSUS,
DEATH BMD, Hackney, Middx R/DBMD |
died AUG 1984, Richmond, Surrey R/DBMD,
age 79 |
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● Arthur Richard Frederick’s the death record
gives the birth date as 3 MAR 1906, but the year is presumably wrong |
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● nothing
more is known about Mercy Grace Bradford |
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BORN |
DIED |
NOTES |
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7G39 |
ALAN JOHN FOWLES |
9 APR 1934CENSUS, Surrey
North Eastern, Surrey R/DBMD |
? |
nothing more is known about him |
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6G42 |
LOIS FOWLES |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 19 NOV 1907CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Twerton, Somerset CENSUS |
died 9 MAR 1980, California, USABMD, age 72 |
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married 30 NOV
1944, Bristol, GlosUS
NATURALIZATION RECORD, HARRY
ROLAND HANCHERBMD,
son of George Alfred? Hancher and Mary Jane? Cooper |
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born 12 FEB 1905DEATH BMD, Birmingham, WarksUS
NATURALIZATION RECORD |
died 10 NOV 1986, California, USABMD, age 81 |
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● they emigrated to the USA in 1947PASSENGER LISTS,
and applied for Naturalization in the USA in 1948US NATURALIZATION
RECORD |
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● nothing
more is known about Harry Roland Hancher |
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● it is said they had CHILDRENFAM, but none have been found born in
UK or CaliforniaBMD, and as of JUN 1948,
they had no childrenUS
NATURALIZATION RECORD |
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6G43 |
MARION EDNA G. FOWLES |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 22 APR 1916CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD |
died 21 JUN 1993WILL, Bristol,
Glos R/DBMD, age 77 WILL |
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married Q3 1938,
Bristol, Glos R/D, CHARLES ROBERT TURNERBMD |
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born 22 MAR 1904CENSUS,
DEATH BMD |
died OCT 1990, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD, age 86 |
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nothing more is
known about Charles Robert Turner |
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7G40 |
2 DAUGHTERS, 1 SON, nothing more is
known about them - SEE NEXT PAGE |
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[5G28] GEORGE
EDWARD GAY’s CHILDREN EALING, MIDDLESEX |
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6G45 |
GRACE RUBY
GAY
“Gracie” |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 14 OCT
1913, Hanwell, MiddxCERT |
© |
died 19 DEC 1993, West Wimbledon, SurreyCERT, age 80FAM, cremated 7
JAN 1994, North East Surrey Crematorium, Morden, SurreyFAM |
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married (1) FAM |
LESLIE MORRIS |
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born 31 DEC 1906CENSUS |
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died: SEE BELOW |
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© |
married (2) 30 APR
1945, Brackley R/O, NorthantsCERT |
JOHN STANLEY
DURHAM, widower, son of Charles William Durham
II and Ann(ie)
Wigley VII |
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born 24 JAN 1894, Gravesend,
KentCERT |
© |
died 12 SEP 1970,
Joyce Green Hospital, Dartford, KentCERT,
age 76, cremated 16 SEP 1970, Medway Crematorium, Chatham, KentFAM WILL |
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● Grace Ruby
and John Stanley were the AUTHOR’s parents |
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● Leslie was
possibly from Brighton, and possibly died in WW2FAM ● a Leslie
Morris, born 31 DEC 1906, died JUL 1989, Fulham, Middx R/D, age 82BMD,
but there is no certainty that it was the same man ● nothing more
is known about him |
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● John
Stanley had 3 children by his 1st marriage and 1 daughter and 1
stepdaughter by his 2nd marriage |
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7G43 |
2 CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN,
GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN including the STYLES,
HENDERSON and HOLWILL families - SEE NEXT PAGE
- ► HENDERSON OF SOUTHWARK
FAMILY TREE |
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6G46 |
RUTH
MILDRED GAY “Billie” |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 1914 OCT 23,
Brentford, Middx R/D |
died 20 MAR 1999WILL, Kingston
upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 84, cremated
….. |
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married (1) Q2
1940, Staines, Middx R/D, FRANCIS BOULTWOOD BRYDEN formerly
BREIDENBACH,
widower, son of Francis Gertman L. Johann Maria Farina Breidenbach and Ada Boultwood, divorced 1960 |
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born 1910, Woolwich,
Kent R/D? (Q1 1911) |
died 16 MAR 1965,
Bromley Hospital, KentWILL, age 54 WILL |
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married (2) Q4
1960, Tonbridge, Kent R/D, BERNARD ARTHUR GOODWINBMD |
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born 8 JUL 1910DEATH
BMD / 9/12 JUL 1910?FAM, Medway, Kent R/DBMD |
died 11 NOV 1983FAM / 13 NOV 1983WILL,
….. Hospital, Wandsworth, Surrey R/D, age 73,
cremated … WILL |
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● one of Ruth
Mildred and Frances Boultwood’s sons writes “one of
my early acts of infamy was to walk up to Orpington Station naked to meet my
father off his train from the City. Great embarrassment for him as the crowds
poured off the 6.30 from Victoria. I walked home with him, me inside his
raincoat. A one-headed, two-armed, four-legged monster” |
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● Francis Boultwood’s great-grandfather, Franz Heinrich/Francis
Henry Breidenbach (about 1813-1871) was born
possibly in Cologne, Germany, immigrated to the UK, married a Court Perfumer,
William Page’s daughter, Emily Ann Page (about 1817-1894), took over his
perfumery business, which was established during the reign of King George III, and changed the name from PAGE to BREIDENBACH in 1836 ● he was
naturalized in 1847 ● his children
and grandchildren were all given the name of Johann Maria Farina within their
names after the famous Eau de Cologne manufacturer (1682-1754) ● the surname
was changed from Breidenbach to Bryden in 1916
owing to anti-German sentiment in the UK during WW1 ● Francis Boultwood married (1) Q1 1937, Surrey Mid
Eastern R/D, Raby Bullen
(about 1917-1938)BMD, and (3) Q2 1960,
Westminster, Middx R/D, Rhoda Elizabeth Dawe, and
had a son by this marriageBMD ► THE BREIDENBACH
FAMILY SITE – the site is however poor on family
history |
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● Bernard
Arthur had children by his previous marriage |
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7G45 |
4 CHILDREN, GRANDCHIDREN,
GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, including the STEED families; Australia - SEE NEXT PAGE |
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6G47 |
FRANCES MARY GAY “Frankie” |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 9 APR 1916,
Brentford, Middx R/D |
died 11 JAN 1998WILL, Surrey
Northern R/DBMD, age 81 |
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married (1) Q2
1936, Brentford, Middx R/D, DENNIS
HAMILTON COESHOTT, formerly COCKSHOTT, bank manager, son
of Edgar Harry Cockshott, electrical engineer,
tramways, and Ada Townend, divorced 1946 |
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born 16 FEB 1907, Arnley, YorksCER,
CENSUST |
© |
died 5 DEC 1981.
Royal Cornwall Hospital, Truro, Cornwall, age 74 [died of cardiac failure,
pancreatic cancer]CERT |
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married (2) Q1
1948, Croydon, Surrey R/D, ERNEST
A. F. MARTINEAU "Tony”, son of – Martineau and – Smith, divorced 1962 |
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born Q4 1919, Wisbech, Cambs |
died 1968, age about 49 |
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married (3) 1964, STANLEY MOWBRAY |
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born ? |
died DEC 1988, Zimbabwe,
Africa |
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● Dennis
Hamilton’s family’s surname was changed from Cockshott
to Coeshott in the 1930’sFAM ● he
married (2) Q4 1948, Middlesex South, Middx R/DBMD, Brenda Dixon née Mackay, born Q3 1914, Chorlton, Lancs R/DBMD,
died after 2000, S. AfricaFAM (mentioned
in the S. African Government Gazette Notices to Creditors in Deceased Estates
dated 16 MAY 2003) ● Brenda
married (1) Q3 1939, Blackpool, Lancs R/DBMD,
Joseph Fielden Dixon, and had 1 sonFAM,
BMD ● nothing more
is known about him |
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● Ernest A. F. was previously
married to – Smith?, and had 1 sonBMD ● nothing
more is known about him |
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● Stanley was
previously married ● nothing
more is known about him |
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7G49 |
4 CHILDREN and 1 ADOPTED SON,
GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, including the
HENDERSON, FULLER, RUTHIE, WHITE, HODKIN, NEIL,
MARTIN, O’DWYER, WARDELL
and GODDARD families - SEE NEXT PAGE |
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6G50 |
MONICA LILLIAN GAY |
GENERATION 6 |
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born 30 JUN 1921FAM, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD |
died 16 JAN 2013, Kingston upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 92, cremated 8 FEB 2013,
Kingston Cemetery, SurreyFAM WILL |
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married (1) 1940, Gretna Green, Dumfries,
ScotlandFAM, BMD,
ANTHONY JOHN MICHAEL ASKEY formerly TEDESCHI,
son of Giovanni Tedeschi/AskeyFAM
(born in ItalyCENSUS) and Lucia AltucciniBMD |
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born 9 JUL 1914DEATH
BMD, Fulham, Middx R/D?BMD |
died 28 DEC 1986WILL,
Sutton, Surrey R/DBMD, age 72, cremated
….., Putney Vale Cemetery, SurreyFAM WILL |
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married (2) APR 2006
or 2007, WILLIAM KITCHENFAM, widower? |
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born about 1921NEWSPAPER
INTERVIEW |
died 2008FAM |
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● Anthony John Michael’s
grandfather, Lorenzo Tedeschi and his family
originally came from yyy, Italy, and immigrated to Great Britain sometime
after 1891CENSUS and before 1894, when their 1st child
born in England was bornCENSUS, BMD / in ….yyy ● there was already a Tedeschi family in Fulham, Middx R/D in the late 1880’sBMD
– perhaps they were related, and Lorenzo Tedeschi,
came from Italy to join his relative here ● the surname was
changed from Tedeschi to Askey
in …. – in the 1911 census, the name was still given as Tedeschi ● the birth record shows him as
Anthony M. Tedeschi, the marriage record as both John
M. A. Tedeschi and John Michael A. Askey, the death record as Anthony John M. Askey, the probate record as Anthony John Michael Askey ● ice cream …..yyy ● wine
business YYY ● nothing more
is known about him |
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is known about William Kitchen |
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7G54 |
1st marriage: 4 CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDRENFAM - SEE NEXT PAGE |
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7G16 |
JOHN SPENCER WALKER GAY “Jack” |
GENERATION 7 |
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born 24 JUN 1922/4, Perth, Western
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22 JUL 1997FAM,
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married CLARICE MONTGOMERIE |
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Spencer Walker’s birth record shows 1924, the military record 1922 ● they moved
to South Australia |
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8G12 -15 |
2 SONS, 2 DAUGHTERS - nothing more is
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7G19 |
JAMES ALLEN GAY “Allen” |
GENERATION 7 |
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born 21 AUG 1926, Perth, Western Australia |
died 17 JUL 1979, Hobart, Tasmania,
Australia, age 52, cremated Selfs Point, Hobart,
buried Cornelian Bay Cemetery, Hobart, Tasmania |
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married 19 NOV 1948,
Claremont, Perth, Western Australia, JOYCE
MAY WALTON “Joy”, daughter of Thomas Rowell Walton, accountant with the Bank of Australasia, and his 2nd
wife Ada Grace Broomfield |
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born 12 NOV 1924, North Perth, Western Australia |
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(notes supplied by
James Allen’s son) ● James
Allen and Joyce MAY left Melbourne in 1969 and went to live in Hobart,
Tasmania ● James
Allen was a salesman for G.E.C, then managing
director of a private electrical wholesaler, Delta Electrical Pty Ltd ● he always
wore a bow tie, never a tie ● he loved
practical jokes ● he played
golf on a weekly basis with his business associates ● he served
in the the Royal Australian Air Force 1944-6 |
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8G16 -19 |
4 SONS, 6 GRANDCHILDREN - SEE NEXT PAGE |
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● NOTES: ►
Roman numerals after a person’s name, eg. Albert James I, are purely to distinguish different
people with the same name ►
The code before each name, for example 2G3, is based on the following
principles: the 1st
figure, in this case 2, refers to the generation, ie.
Generation 2 the 2nd
letter, in this case G, refers to the family, ie.
the Gay and associated families the 3rd
figure, in this case 3, refers to the number of identified children,
including possible children, for that particular generation |
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odd notes @ = addresses ●
SOURCE ABBREVIATIONS: BMD
online birth/marriage/death indexes CENSUS
various census records CERT
birth/marriage/death certificate ELECT
electoral registers FAM family sources IGI
International Genealogical Index (not always completely reliable) WILL will/letters of
administration/probate details COMMENTS
AND CORRECTIONS WELCOMED IN PARTICULAR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW
OF ANY LINKS THAT DON’T WORK FOR CONTACT ADDRESS SEE HOMEPAGE |
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