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25 JANUARY 2018

GAY FAMILY HISTORY

page 1

GAY family except EPHRAIM GAY’s family

GENERATIONS

THE GAY FAMILY, BROUGHTON GIFFORD, WILTSHIRE

including THE HORNER FAMILY, BROUGHTON GIFFORD, WILTSHIRE

THE GODFREY FAMILY, BATH, SOMERSET

THE POPE FAMILY, BATH, SOMERSET

THE WILLMOTT FAMILY, NORWICH, NORFOLK

GENERATIONS ARE NUMBERED FROM THE FIRST TRACED ANCESTOR, THOMAS GAY (about 1763?-1838?), AND HAVE THE FOLLOWING BACKGROUND COLOUR:

Descrizione: AAAZZZGAY2

THE COMMON, BROUGHTON GIFFORD, ADDRESS OF MANY OF THE GAY FAMILY IN THE 19^th CENTURY

Descrizione: G111

The Gays are found in Broughton Gifford, Wilts, although where they first came from is unknown – there seem to be a lot of them in the village, as well as in surrounding areas, so they must have been established there for some time – there are Gays buried in Broughton Gifford cemetery as far back as 1623.

The first certain ancestor is THOMAS GAY, born 1763? – apart from a line who went to live in Bath, Somerset, it was his grandson EPHRAIM GAY whose family started leaving the village: his second son JOHN GAY emigrated first to Canada, then to Australia, and the family is still flourishing there, and his two youngest sons, HENRY GAY III and GEORGE EDWARD GAY, moved, eventually to Ealing, Middx, and set up Gay Brothers, an engineering firm, in Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, later Hampton, Middx.

HENRY GAY III had no children, but GEORGE EDWARD GAY, the author’s ancestor, had seven – unfortunately in an outbreak of diphtheria in 1921 his wife, a son and a daughter died, and the second son died in 1933, but the families of his four surviving daughters have spread out all over the world.

There is also a branch in Essex, although it is not certain how its founder EDWIN GAY is related to the rest of the family.

FACT: in the 1891 England & Wales census, 6% of Gays (244 out of 4057) lived in Wiltshire – even more lived in neighbouring Gloucestershire

GENERATION 1

1G01	THOMAS GAY									GENERATION 1
	born 1763?^{DEATH BMD}				© ©		died 4 MAY 1838, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 76?^CERT, buried 8 MAY 1838, Broughton Gifford, Wilts?^CERT [died of hernia of the stomach, …..?]
©	married 25 DEC 1788, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, MARTHA GORE^CERT, daughter of John Gore and Hester/Esther Stephen or of William Gore and Mary Fennell
	baptized 9 OCT 1763, Broughton Gifford, Wilts					©	buried 19 MAY 1836, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 72?^CERT
i	as the name is so common, it has not been possible to find anything more on Thomas Gay
CHILDREN		BAPTIZED						DIED		NOTES
CHARLOTTE GAY I		©	24 MAY 1790	Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT				©	buried 18 OCT 1812, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT, age 22	nothing more is known about them
ANN GAY I			28 JUL 1793						buried 4 OCT 1812, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT, age 19
JAMES GAY			27 MAR 1796						Q1 1876?, Broughton Gifford, Wilts?, age about 61?	SEE BELOW
MILLICENT GAY I?									?	nothing more is known about them
JACOB GAY I			8 APR 1798					©	buried 19 MAY 1815, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 17?^CERT
MILLICENT GAY II?			25 DEC 1801						?
OTHERS?

GENERATION 2

THOMAS GAY’s CHILDREN

2G..

JAMES GAY

GENERATION

baptized 27 MAR 1796, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT

died Q1 1876?, Broughton Gifford, Wilts?, age about 61?

married 31 JAN 1816, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, ANN(E) MORTIMER, daughter of Henry "Harry" Mortimer II and Betty/Elizabeth Matthews

baptized 20 FEB 1791, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT

died 1861~71^CENSUS / 23 FEB 1863, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 72 [died of asthma, (suffered for) many years]^CERT

● in the marriage record, James is described as a weaver, age 20, and Ann age 25

● no baptism records can be found for the children after Charlotte(a) – either they are not yet available online, or James did not have them baptized in a Church of England church

● neither can any burial records be found for James and Ann(e), so perhaps their funerals were also non Church of England

NOTES ON JACOB GAY II:

● there were 2 Jacob Gays born about 1819-21 in Broughton Gifford, both sons of “James Gay, weaver”

● unfortunately, as of 2017, no baptism for either can be found for either Jacob in the online records

Jacob Gays connected with Broughton Gifford

CENSUS RECORDS

census

yyy

born about

living in

occupation

with

conclusion

1841

1821*

● in the 1841 census places of birth were not shown

Broughton Gifford

shoemaker?

James and Ann(e)

● in the 1841 census no relationships were shown, so it must be assumed they were his parents

“Jacob A”?

1821*

Broughton Gifford

weaver

a James and a Mary

● all 3 were about the same age, so James was possibly his brother, and Mary his wife

“Jacob B”?

1851

1820

Broughton Gifford

weaver

wife Mary

1861

1819

Broughton Gifford

Silver Street, Trowbridge

weaver

wife Mary**

1871

1821

Broughton Gifford

Trowbridge

weaver

wife Emma

● she was 10 years younger than him

1881

1820

Broughton Gifford

Trowbridge

weaver

wife Emma

1891

1819

Broughton Gifford

Studley, Trowbridge

weaver

wife Emma

* but in the 1841 census the ages of people over 15 years old were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years

** a Mary Gay, born about 1820, was buried 22 OCT 1864 at Trowbridge, abode Trowbridge, Silver Street

MARRIAGES

date

place

age (so

born about)

condition

occupation

father

occupation

witness(es)

wife

conclusion

25 DEC 1839

Broughton

Gifford

21 (1818)

bachelor

weaver

James Gay

weaver

Jane Gay***

Mary Collett

(born about 1819)

“Jacob B”?

21 OCT 1841

Broughton

Gifford

22 (1819)

bachelor

shoemaker

James Gay

weaver

Henry Gay****

Ruth Mortimer

“Jacob A”? ****

11 NOV 1865

North

Bradley,

Wilts

45 (1820)

widower

weaver

James Gay

weaver

Isaac Gay***, Maria Gay***

Emma Randell

(spinster, 10 years younger than him)

“Jacob B”?

*** there is no record of any people with these names in this Gay family

**** the 1842 marriage could possibly be Jacob II, as 1 of the 1841 census records, the 1842 death, and this marriage all show “shoemaker”, and Jacob did have a brother Henry (Henry Gay I) – if this marriage was his, it looks as though yyy!

DEATH RECORDS

died / buried

age

(so born about)

occupation

died of

informant

conclusion

died 25 MAY 1842

Broughton Gifford

23 (1819)

shoemaker

“decline”

Ann Gay

● no relationship shown – Jacob II’s mothers’ name was Ann

yyy to be finished

“Jacob A”?

buried 23 OCT 1897

Trowbridge, abode Studley

79 (1818)

“Jacob B”?

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

CHARLOTTE(A) GAY II

baptized 28 FEB 1817, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT

Q2 1886, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 69

SEE BELOW

JACOB GAY II

about 1821, Broughton Gifford, Wilts?

25 MAY 1842?, Broughton Gifford, Wilts?, age 23? [died of “decline”]

nothing more is known about him

HENRY GAY I

about 1822, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

30 DEC 1881, Lunatic Asylum, Wells, Somerset^WILL, age about 60 WILL

SEE BELOW

RUTH GAY I

about 1825, Wilts^CENSUS

nothing more is known about her

EPHRAIM GAY

about 1827, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

17 JAN 1885, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT, age 58

SEE NEXT PAGE

ELIZABETH GAY I

about 1831, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CENSUS

died Q1 1906, West Ham, Essex R/D, age 78^BMD?

SEE BELOW

OTHERS?

GENERATION 3

JAMES GAY’s CHILDREN

3G..

CHARLOTTE(A) GAY II

GENERATION

baptized 28 FEB 1817, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CERT

died Q2 1886, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 69

married 21 JAN 1845, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, THOMAS HORNER, widower^CERT

born about 1804/7, Jamaica, West Indies^CENSUS

died Q1 1874, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age about 70

● Thomas married (1) Mary --, and had children^CENSUS

● nothing more is known about him

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

EMILY HORNER I

about 1843, Bradford on Avon, Wilts

● shown in Thomas Horner’s 1851 census as stepdaughter, so possibly Charlotte(a) II’s daughter by somebody else

● nothing more is known about her

WILLIAM HORNER

Q4 1845^BMD

Broughton Gifford,

Wilts

20 DEC 1851, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age about 5

nothing more is known about them

HENRY HORNER I

Q2 1848^BMD

6 DEC 1851, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age about 3

MARY ANN HORNER

Q3 1850^BMD

ELIZABETH HORNER

Q4 1853^BMD

23 JAN 1854, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 0

HENRY HORNER II

Q1 1855^BMD

Q4 1870, Broughton Gifford, Wilts, age 15

MARY JANE HORNER

Q3 1858^BMD, baptized 8 JAN 1860

Q4 1908, Melksham, Wilts R/D, age 50

SEE BELOW

RUTH HORNER

Q3 1862^BMD

nothing more is known about them

ELIZABETH LOUISA HORNER

Q3 1864^BMD

OTHERS?

3G..

HENRY GAY I

GENERATION

about 1822, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CENSUS

died 30 DEC 1881, Lunatic Asylum, Wells, Somerset^WILL, age about 60 WILL

married Q2 1845, Bath, Somerset R/D, ELIZABETH GREENFIELD?/GREENMAN?^BMD

born about 1815, Hullavington, Wilts^CENSUS

died 1881~91?^CENSUS

● the author was in some doubt as to whether Elizabeth’s surname was Greenfield or Greenman, but the parish banns record and the marriage record both show Greenman, and the mother's maiden name in all the children’s birth records is also Greenman

● nothing more is known about her

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

WILLIAM HENRY GAY

Q1 1846^BMD, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

Q1 1906^BMD / 15 MAR 1906^FAM, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 60

SEE BELOW

ALFRED GAY

Q1 1847, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD

Q1 1847, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 0?^BMD, buried 16 MAR 1847, St Swithin, Walcot, Bath, Somerset, age 1 week^CERT

● the death record is for “Male Gay”

● nothing more is known about him

ELLEN GAY I

Q1 1849^BMD, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS, baptized 25 FEB 1849, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

Q1 1923, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 74

SEE BELOW

female

Q3 1850, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD

Q3 1850, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 0?^BMD

● the death record is for “Female Gay”

● nothing more is known about her

EMMA GAY

10 AUG 1851^….., baptized 28 SEP 1851, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

Bath,

Somerset

^CENSUS

Q3 1942, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 90/ “7 AUG 1942, 91 years, all but 3 days”^FAM

SEE BELOW

ALBERT JAMES GAY I

Q1 1853^BMD, baptized 30 JAN 1853, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

EMILY GAY II

Q1 1855^BMD, baptized 31 DEC 1854, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

nothing more is known about them

ALFRED GEORGE GAY

Q1 1857^BMD, baptized 29 MAR 1857, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

Q1 1881, Bath, Somerset?, age 24?

JESSE EDMUND GAY

Q3 1858, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, baptized 31 OCT 1858, Holy Trinity, Bath, Somerset^CERT

Q1 1860, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 1, buried 8 JAN 1860, St Swithin, Walcot, Bath, Somerset, age 1^CERT

OTHERS?

3G..

ELIZABETH GAY I

GENERATION

born about 1831, Broughton Gifford, Wilts^CENSUS

died Q1 1906, West Ham, Essex R/D, age 78?^BMD

married Q4 1858, West Ham, Essex R/D, WILLIAM GRIDLEY?^BMD, son of Daniel Gridley and Mary --^CENSUS

born about 1836, Stanfield, Suffolk

died after 1901?

● an ©ELIZABETH GAY, daughter of JAMES, labourer, and ANN, was born 15 AUG 1828, baptized 27 SEP 1846, St James, Trowbridge, Wilts^CERT - this MAY be her

● if the above death record is for the correct person, the age makes her born about 1828

● nothing more is known about William Gridley

CHILDREN: SEE GRIDLEY FAMILY

GENERATION 4

CHARLOTTE(A) GAY II’s CHILDREN

THE HORNER FAMILY, BROUGHTON GIFFORD, WILTSHIRE

4G..

MARY JANE HORNER

GENERATION

baptized 8 JAN 1860, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

died Q4 1908, Melksham, Wilts, R/D, age 50

married 31 OCT 1891, Baptist Chapel, Hilperton, Wilts, ALBERT JAMES GAY II^CERT, her 1^st cousin, son of Ephraim Gay and Ann Earl

born 8 JUL 1856, Holt, Wilts^CERT, baptized 26 OCT 1856, Holt, Wilts^CERT

died ?

CHILDREN?

● no children by 1911 census

HENRY GAY I’s CHILDREN

BATH, SOMERSET

4G..

WILLIAM HENRY GAY

GENERATION

born Q1 1846^BMD, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died Q1 1906^BMD / 15 MAR 1906^FAM, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 60

married 26 JAN 1873, Holy Trinity, Bath, Somerset, EMMA KINGDON, daughter of William Kingdon, labourer^CERT, separated?

born about 1853^{MARRIAGE CERT} / about 1851^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Goodleigh, Devon^CENSUS / Q3 1851, Barnstaple, Devon R/D?^BMD, baptized 8 JUN 1851, Goodleigh, Devon?^CERT

died Q2 1907, Barnstaple, Devon R/D^BMD, age 56, buried 12 JUN 1907, Holy Trinity, Barnstaple, Devon, age 56^CERT

● William Henry’s sister Emma Gay Godfrey’s son Arthur Charles left a handwritten list detailing the dates of his immediate relations' births and deaths^FAM, which stated:

“Uncle William Henry Gay had two daughters Edith & Kitty Gay. They both passed on”

but no likely births can be found for an Edith & Kitty Gay, and the only Gay births found, mother's maiden name Kingdon, are those for Minnie Emma and Harriet Florence

● nothing more is known about Emma Kingdon

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

MINNIE EMMA GAY

Q4 1873, Barnstaple, Devon R/D^BMD, baptized 19 OCT 1873, Goodleigh, Devon^CERT

● unmarried in 1911^CENSUS

● nothing more is known about her

HARRIET FLORENCE GAY

Q3 1875, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, baptized 4 JUL 1875, St Swithin, Walcot, Bath, Somerset^CERT

16 AUG 1941, Bishops Tawton, Devon^WILL, age 65, buried St John the Baptist, Bishops Tawton, Devon, age 65^BMDWILL

SEE BELOW

EDITH GAY I^FAM

nothing more is known about them

KITTY GAY^FAM

OTHERS?

4G..

ELLEN GAY I

GENERATION

born Q1 1849^BMD, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS, baptized 24 FEB 1849, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

died Q1 1923, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 74

married Q3 1881, Bath, Somerset R/D, THOMAS ALFRED SEDG(E)BERRY^BMD, son of Thomas Sedg(e)berry, grocer's assistant, warehouseman, and Mary --

born Q3 1848, Bristol, Glos R/D^BMD

died Q3 1890^BMD, Bath, Somerset, age 42

nothing more is known about Thomas Alfred Sedg(e)berry

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

LOUISE MARY YELLAND SEDG(E)BERRY

Q1 1884, Bath, Somerset

Q2 1885^BMD, Bath, Somerset, age 1

nothing more is known about her

ELLEN REGINA SEDG(E)BERRY

Q3 1887, Bath, Somerset

5 DEC 1958, Bath, Somerset^WILL, age 71 WILL

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

OTHERS?

● total 2 children by 1911 census, 1 already dead

4G..

EMMA GAY

FAMILY & DESCENT

GENERATION

born 10 AUG 1851^….., Bath, Somerset^CENSUS, baptized 28 SEP 1851, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

died Q3 1942, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 90/ “7 AUG 1942, 91 years, all but 3 days”^FAM

married 10 NOV 1873, Holy Trinity, Bath, Somerset, CHARLES LOWDAY GODFREY, son of Charles Lowday, carpenter^CERT

born about 1851, Chilton Polden, Somerset^CENSUS / 1850^FAM

died 31 AUG 1910, Bath, Somerset^WILL, age 60 WILL

● the author previously though that Emma married – Ellis, and was the mother of May Ellis, born about 1879, London, Middx^CENSUS, (SEE BELOW), but now that Emma’s marriage certificate, 1873, has come online (APR 2017), it would theoretically not be possible that Emma was her mother

● her great-grandson comments (2017):

► according to my mother [Margaret Godfrey Aldridge], Emma was very religious - was religion a major cultural element in the Gay family? If so, was it non-conformist or Anglican? (see notes on EPHRAIM GAY’s family, above, although there MAY be no connection between the 2 families’ religious leanings)

► she also used to tell us that Emma died during the bombing of Bath in 1942, but she is not included in the list of bombing casualties on-line, despite the fact that Shakespeare Avenue, where she lived, was affected at one end, and nor is this story supported by the fact that the major raids were in April and she died in August

● the marriage certificate and record are for Charles Lowday Godfrey, but in the certificate his father is shown as “Charles Lowday”, whereas the death and probate records show plain Charles Godfrey

● no birth record for Charles Lowday Godfrey can be found - there is no birth record in 1850, as his son states

● but there is a © baptism record for a Charles Godfrey, baptized 1 MAY 1850, Street, Somerset, mother Anna Godfrey, no father shown - Chilton Polden, which Charles Lowday gave in the census as his birthplace, is about 13 km from Street

● this could explain matters, why he was variously called Charles Godfrey and Charles Lowday Godfrey – his mother was Anna Godfrey, and his father Charles Lowday, as he stated in his marriage certificate, which would make his legal name “Charles Godfrey”

● the family cannot be found in the 1851 census, but the 1861 census lists Charles Godfrey 41, carpenter, Christina Godfrey 36, and various children, including Charles Godfrey 10 (so born about 1851)

● the 1871 census lists Charles Godfrey 51, carpenter, Christiana (= “Anna”?) Godfrey 45, various children, including William James Godfrey 15, Frederick Lowday Godfrey 14, Edgar Randall Godfrey 5 months, all except Christiana born at Chilton Polden

● so there was obviously some connection between the Godfrey and Lowday families

● nothing more is known about him

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

ROSA MARIA COMFORT GODFREY

Q1 1875^BMD /

22 DEC 1874^FAM

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

26 NOV 1930, Barbados^FAM, age 55

SEE BELOW

CHARLES (HERBERT^FAM) GODFREY

Q1 1876, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD /

2 MAR 1876^FAM

Q1 1876, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about him

FLORENCE EMILY GODFREY

Q1 1877^BMD /

14 FEB 1877^FAM

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

Q4 1939, Tiverton, Devon R/D, age 62?^BMD / 31 OCT 1939^FAM

SEE BELOW

KATE EMMA GODFREY

Q2 1878^BMD /

4 MAY 1878^FAM

Q2 1941, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 63?^BMD

LILY EUGENIE GODFREY

Q3 1880^BMD /

3 JUN 1880^FAM

Q1 1963, Lothingland, Suffolk R/D, age 82?^BMD

DAISY HELEN GODFREY

Q2 1882, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD /

17 MAY 1882^FAM

Q1 1883, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about her

ARTHUR CHARLES GODFREY

9 AUG 1883

^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD, FAM}

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

Q3 1970, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 87

SEE BELOW

ERNEST HENRY GODFREY

Q3 1884^BMD /

22 JUL 1884^FAM

Q1 1938, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales R/D, age 53?^BMD / “27 JAN 1938, he lived in Cardiff, aged 53 years”^FAM

DAISY VIOLET GODFREY

Q1 1886, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD /

27 DEC 1885^FAM

Q2 1886, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about her

ELSIE BEATRICE GODFREY

Q2 1887^BMD /

24 MAR 1887^FAM

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

Q2 1943, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 56

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

OLIVE LOUISE GODFREY

Q4 1888 /

2 OCT 1888^FAM

Bath, Somerset R/D

^BMD

Q4 1888, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about them

WALTER HUGH GODFREY

Q2 1890 /

14 MAR 1890^FAM

Q3 1890, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

HILDA GRACE GODFREY

19 APR 1891

^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD, FAM}

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

23 SEP 1975^WILL, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 84 WILL

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

(IVY^FAM) BLANCHE GODFREY

Q3 1892, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD /

1 AUG 1892^FAM

Q3 1892, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about her

MURIEL IRENE GODFREY

Q2 1894^BMD /

22 FEB 1894^FAM

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

Q2 1916, Wells, Somerset R/D^BMD / 22 MAY 1916^FAM, age 22

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

WINIFRED MARGUERITE GODFREY

Q1 1896, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD /

16 DEC 1895^FAM

Q1 1896, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about her

child

before 1911^CENSUS

● Arthur Charles’ list of the dates of his immediate relations' births and deaths states: “the last [this child] was stillborn”

● nothing more is known about him or her

● total 17 children by 1911 census, 8 already dead

4G..

ALBERT JAMES GAY I

GENERATION

born Q1 1853^BMD, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS, baptized 30 JAN 1853, St Saviour, Bath, Somerset^CERT

died ?

married 25 MAY 1874, Holy Trinity, Bath, Somerset, ELLEN ROGERS, daughter of George Rogers, valêt^CERT

born about 1852, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died ?

● Albert James, Ellen and the 2 elder children disappear after the 1881 census, but no suitable death records can be found, and as the 2 younger children are found in the 1891 census, 1 c/o relatives, 1 in the workhouse, it seems unlikely that they emigrated, more likely that they died

● nothing more is known about Ellen Rogers

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

EDITH ELLEN GAY

Q2 1875^BMD

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

nothing more is known about them

EDWARD JAMES GAY

Q2 1876^BMD

AGNES KATE GAY

Q1 1880^BMD

FREDERICK GEORGE GAY I

Q1 1881^BMD

SEE BELOW

OTHERS?

4G..

one of HENRY GAY I’s CHILDREN?

GENERATION

● in the 1891 census she was at Emily Gay II’s home, 12, “niece”

● in the 1901 census she was at Ellen Gay I Sedg(e)berry’s home, 22, “boarder”

● the author previously thought that she was the daughter of Emma Gay, but Emma was married in 1879

● so it is unclear whose daughter she was - she might even have been the niece of one of Henry I’s children’s spouses

● in her possible birth record, no mother's maiden name is given, meaning that that the mother’s surname was Ellis, and no father was shown

● the possible baptism record shows her as daughter of Ellen Ellis, single woman, residence Epsom Common, Surrey

● so perhaps she was the daughter of Ellen Gay I Sedg(e)berry, who did not marry until 1881

● nothing more is known about her

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

MAY ELLIS

about 1879, London, Middx^CENSUS / Q3 1880, Epsom, Surrey R/D?^BMD, baptized 4 AUG 1880, Christ Church, Epsom, Surrey?^CERT

(see above)

GENERATION 5

WILLIAM HENRY GAY’s CHILDREN

5G..

HARRIET FLORENCE GAY

GRAVE

GENERATION

born Q3 1875, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, baptized 4 JUL 1875, St Swithin, Walcot, Bath, Somerset^CERTBMD

died 16 AUG 1941, Bishops Tawton, Devon^WILL, age 65, buried St John the Baptist, Bishops Tawton, Devon, age 65^BMDWILL

married 4 MAY 1901, Holy Trinity, Barnstaple, Devon, HERBERT WILLIAM YEO, son of James Yeo, tailor and ladies’? draper^CERT

born Q3 1872, Barnstaple, Devon R/D^BMD

died 12 SEP 1938, Barnstaple, Devon^WILL, age 66, buried St John the Baptist, Bishops Tawton, Devon, age 66^BMDWILL

nothing more is known about Herbert William Yeo

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

FLORENCE YEO

Q4 1901, Barnstaple, Devon R/D^BMD

Q4 1901, Barnstaple, Devon R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about them

JAMES YEO

Q3 1906^BMD, Barnstaple, Devon^CENSUS

alive in 1941^{MOTHER’s PROBATE RECORD}

● total 2 children by 1911 census, 1 already dead

EMMA GAY’s CHILDREN

THE GODFREY FAMILY, BATH, SOMERSET

5G..

ROSA MARIA COMFORT GODFREY

GENERATION

born Q1 1875^BMD / 22 DEC 1874^FAM, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died 26 NOV 1930, Barbados^FAM, age 55

married Q3 1897, Bath, Somerset R/D, FRED CURTIS^BMD, missionary^PASSENGER^LISTS

born about 1872/5^{PASSENGER LISTS}

died 21 AUG 1931, Bath, Somerset^WILL, age 59 WILL

● in some passenger lists, Rosa Maria Comfort is also shown as a missionary

● the marriage and probate records and the passenger lists show Fred Curtis, the death record Frederick Curtis

● nothing more is known about him

NO CHILDREN^FAM

5G..

FLORENCE EMILY GODFREY

GENERATION

born Q1 1877^BMD / 14 FEB 1877^FAM, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died Q4 1939, Tiverton, Devon R/D, age 62?^BMD / 31 OCT 1939^FAM

married Q4 1899, Bath, Somerset R/D, WILLIAM FRANCIS HENRY POPE^BMD, divorced^CENSUS

born Q4 1873, Bedminster, Somerset R/D^BMD

died 18 AUG 1951, Limpley Stoke, Wilts^WILL, age 77 / 13 AUG 1951, age 78^FAM WILL

● William Francis Henry married (2) Q3 1939, Bath, Somerset R/D, Sallie J. Holbrow^BMD (born 17 AUG 1898^CENSUS)

● nothing more is known about him

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

CECIL WILLIAM POPE

Q4 1900

Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD

Q1 1901, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about him

IRENE FLORENCE POPE

6 DEC 1903^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}

Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

OCT 1992, Mid Devon, Devon R/D^BMD, age 88

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

WILFRID GODFREY POPE

12 MAY 1905^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}

30 JUL 1985^WILL, Honiton, Devon R/D^BMD, age 80

SEE BELOW

GRACE HILDA POPE

Q1 1908

Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD

Q1 1908, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 0

nothing more is known about her

● total 4 children by 1911 census, 2 already dead

5G..

KATE EMMA GODFREY

GENERATION

born Q2 1878^BMD / 4 MAY 1878^FAM, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died Q2 1941, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 63?^BMD

married Q4 1900, Bath, Somerset R/D, ERNEST QUINTON WILLIAMS^BMD

born about 1877, Caldicot, Monmouthshire, Wales^CENSUS / 14 MAY 1878^FAM

died Q1 1967, Tiverton, Devon R/D, age 90?^BMD

nothing more is known about Ernest Quinton Williams

NO CHILDREN^FAM

● no children by 1911 census

5G..

LILY EUGENIE GODFREY

GENERATION

born Q3 1880^BMD / 3 JUN 1880^FAM, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died Q1 1963, Lothingland, Suffolk R/D, age 82?^BMD

married Q3 1900, Bath, Somerset R/D, MARTIN MAXTED WILLMOTT^BMD, son of Charles Maxted Marten Willmott, police constable, and Elizabeth Ann --^{BAPTISM CERT}

born 26 JUN 1875^CERT, Smallburgh, Norfolk R/D^BMD, baptized 27 JAN 1878, Stalham, Norfolk^CERT

died Q2 1967, Norwich, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 91

nothing more is known about Martin Maxted Willmott

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

DORIS LILLY WILLMOTT

3 MAR 1901

^CENSUS

Norwich, Norfolk^CENSUS

baptized

21 APR 1901

St Thomas,

Heigham,

Norwich,

Norfolk^BMD

Q3 1950, North Walsham, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 48

SEE BELOW

MARTEN CHARLES WILLMOTT

8 FEB 1903^CENSUS

baptized

21 JUN 1903

Q4 1940, Norwich Outer, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 37

nothing more is known about him

GLADYS ROSE WILLMOTT

20 JUN 1905

^{DEATH BMD}

JAN 2002, North Walsham, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 96

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

AUBREY GODFREY WILLMOTT

13 AUG 1907

^{DEATH BMD}

MAY 1990, Norwich, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 82

SEE BELOW

● total 4 children by 1911 census, all alive

5G..

ARTHUR CHARLES GODFREY

GENERATION

born 9 AUG 1883^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD, FAM}, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died Q3 1970, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 87

married (1) ….., MARGARET HOPE BANN^FAM

born 18 JUL 1882^CENSUS, Croydon, Surrey R/D^BMD

died early 1950’s, probably 1951 or 1952, possibly in Buenos Aires, Argentina^FAM

married (2) Q2 1955, Bath, Somerset R/D, ADA THERESA TUCKER^BMD née BEBBINGTON^BMD, widow?

born 20 MAY 1890^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Frome, Somerset R/D^BMD

died 2 DEC 1978^WILL, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 88 WILL

● Arthur Charles worked in Argentina for the Buenos Aires & Pacific Railway, Argentina (a British company)^{PASSENGER LISTS}

● his grandson comments (2017):

► he went initially to Uruguay, then to Argentina, and somehow persuaded his wife to join him! - they lived midway between Buenos Aires and the Andes, in very primitive and socially isolated conditions, before retiring(?) to Buenos Aires, then Mar del Plata, where we think his wife died, and he then moved back to England (where he married again)

► my understanding is that he was in a fairly humble situation in England, but did quite well for himself in Argentina, although there is a story (uncorroborated) that my father helped support him in retirement, and I don't think Arthur was profligate - this may be why he and his wife retired in Argentina, because they knew they could not afford to live in England – but when she died, he decided to move back to his family neighbourhood in Bath (was Ada a childhood sweetheart?), and perhaps my father subsidised him at that point - this is all speculation - I don't get the impression he was a well-educated man

► the railway company paid his passage to and from England every three years - whether they paid for him to go first class, or whether he paid for the up-grade, I don't know [the family appear in several passenger lists between 1919 and 1953]

► during their stays in England, the family used to stay in Brighton (rather than Bath) because Arthur Charles’ wife Margaret Hope had a close relation there - her sister Winifred was the manageress of a Brighton branch of "Fuller's Tea Rooms" - one of the addresses they gave in the passenger lists - 24 St George's Terrace - is where Winnie lived

► I have a letter written by Winnie to my mother about her immediate neighbourhood being bombed two years earlier: "the front door blown into the bathroom" .... "I have never really got over it"

► my mother's school was in Brighton (Westcombe School - now a block of flats), and "Auntie Winnie" used to take the twins out at (some?) weekends, and treat them to tea and cakes in the Tea Room

► I don't know when she died, and I never met her. She mentions some people in the letter, but there is no way of knowing whether they are related in any way

► my mother (Margaret Godfrey Aldridge) was known as Margo to distinguish her from Margaret, her mother (Margaret Hope Bann Godfrey)

● in Arthur Charles’ daughters’ baptism record (1912) his abode is given as Argentina, so he was obviously already living there, and perhaps he and Margaret Hope were married there

● nothing more is known about Margaret Hope Bann

● Ada Theresa married (1) William Tucker, engineer in charge of electricity station, born 12 SEP 1886, and possibly had children^CENSUS

● nothing more is known about her

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

MARGARET GODFREY

31 JUL 1912^{CERT, DEATH BMD}, Croydon, Surrey R/D^BMD, baptized 5 OCT 1912, Christ Church, West Croydon, Surrey^CERT

DEC 1999, Worthing, Sussex R/D^BMD, age 87

SEE BELOW

JOAN GODFREY

1990’s?

● her nephew comments (2017):

► she married twice, and had two children by the first marriage

► she lived in Buenos Aires, Argentina all her life as a member of the extensive (as it was) English community there

► and died there, I don't know when - perhaps five years before my mother (1999)? I'm only guessing

● not found in 1911 census

5G..

ERNEST HENRY GODFREY

GENERATION

born Q3 1884^BMD / 22 JUL 1884^FAM, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died Q1 1938, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales R/D, age 53?^BMD / “27 JAN 1938, he lived in Cardiff, aged 53 years”^FAM

married Q3 1909, Bristol, Glos R/D, LILLIAN HENRIETTA BROWN^BMD

born 7 MAY 1883^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}

Q2 1974, South Glamorgan, Glamorgan, Wales R/D^BMD, age 91

nothing more is known about Lillian Henrietta Brown

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

ANNIE IRENE GRACE GODFREY

Q3 1910, Bristol, Glos R/D^BMD

nothing more is known about her

GWENDOLINE DOROTHY GODFREY

9 AUG 1918^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales R/D^BMD

13 MAR 2011, residence place at death Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales^BMD, age 93

SEE BELOW

OTHERS?

● total 1 child by 1911 census, alive

ALBERT JAMES GAY I’s CHILDREN

5G..

FREDERICK GEORGE GAY I

GENERATION

born Q1 1881^BMD, Bath, Somerset^CENSUS

died ?

married Q2 1906, Bath, Somerset R/D, EMILY FLORENCE E. STAINER^BMD

born about 1877, Trowbridge, Wilts^CENSUS

died Q1 1942, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 64?^BMD

● the possible death record is for Emily F. E. Gay, age 64 (so born about 1878)

● nothing more is known about her

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

REGINALD STAINER GAY

26 MAR 1913^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD

9 MAR 1994^WILL, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 81

SEE BELOW

● no children by 1911 census

GENERATION 6

FLORENCE EMILY GODFREY’s CHILDREN THE POPE FAMILY, BATH, SOMERSET
6G..	WILFRID GODFREY POPE						GENERATION 6
	born 12 MAY 1905^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}				died 30 JUL 1985^WILL, Honiton, Devon R/D, age 80?^BMD
	married Q2 1931, Clutton, Somerset R/D, DOREEN M. CHIVERS^BMD
	born 4 JUN 1904^{POSSIBLE DEATH BMD} / 23 APR 1906^CENSUS				died 17 FEB 1972^WILL, Honiton, Devon R/D, age 67?^BMD
i	● the possible death and probate records are for Mary Doreen Pope, but are feasible as it is in the same R/D as Wilfrid Godfrey’s possible death ● nothing more is known about her
	possibly 1 SON, GRANDCHILDREN^BMD – SEE NEXT PAGE


	LILY EUGENIE GODFREY’s CHILDREN THE WILLMOTT FAMILY, NORWICH, NORFOLK
6G..	DORIS LILLY WILLMOTT						GENERATION 6
	born 3 MAR 1901^CENSUS, Norwich, Norfolk^CENSUS, baptized 21 APR 1901, St Thomas, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk^BMD				died Q3 1950, North Walsham, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 48
	married Q3 1928, Yarmouth, Norfolk R/D, CHARLES B(ARBOUR?) CARR^BMD, son of Charles Carr, draper furniture …..?^CENSUS
	born 26 FEB 1902^CENSUS / 26 MAR 1902^{POSSIBLE DEATH BMD}				died Q3 1972, Lothingland, Suffolk R/D, age 70?^BMD
i	● the marriage record is for Charles B. Carr, the possible death record for Charles Barbour Carr ● nothing more is known about him
	CHILDREN?

6G..	AUBREY GODFREY WILLMOTT						GENERATION 6
	born 13 AUG 1907^{DEATH BMD}, Norwich, Norfolk^CENSUS				died MAY 1990, Norwich, Norfolk R/D^BMD, age 82
	married (1?) Q2 1929, Norwich, Norfolk R/D, DORIS M. MONEY^BMD
	born 7 DEC 1910^CENSUS				died ?
	married (2?) Q1 1946, Norwich, Norfolk R/D, BARBARA H. OTTAWAY^BMD
	born ?
i	nothing more is known about Doris M. Money or Barbara H. Ottaway
	1^st marriage 1 DAUGHTER, 3 SONS, 1 UNCLEAR^BMD – SEE NEXT PAGE
	CHILDREN 1^st marriage		BORN				NOTES


	JOHN BRYAN WILLMOTT		9 DEC 1937^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Blofield, Norfolk R/D^BMD			died 24 FEB 2015, residence place at death Norwich, Norfolk^BMD, age 78	SEE BELOW


	CHILDREN 2^nd marriage?
	ARTHUR CHARLES GODFREY’s CHILDREN
6G..	MARGARET GODFREY						GENERATION 6
©	born 31 JUL 1912^{CERT, DEATH BMD}, Croydon, Surrey R/D^BMD, baptized 5 OCT 1912, Christ Church, West Croydon, Surrey^CERT				died DEC 1999, Worthing, Sussex R/D^BMD, age 87
	married after 1937^{PASSENGER LISTS}, WALTER EDWARD ALDRIDGE, divorced^FAM, son of Walter Leonard Aldridge and Elvira Bertha Duchein^{2nd MARRIAGE CERT, FAM}
	born 11 OCT 1910^{DEATH BMD}, Sao Paulo, Brazil^FAM				died 19 SEP 1986, Okaloosa, Florida, USA, age 75^{BMD, FAM}
i	● the birth and baptism records are for plain Margaret Godfrey, but the death record is for Margaret Godfrey Aldridge, so hopefully this is the correct death record ● her son comments (2017): “after their divorce; my mother returned to England (from Rio de Janeiro), and my father re-married (an American), and they settled in Florida after my father's retirement from his work in Rio”
	● Walter Edward was a 2^nd generation expatriate - his father had been born in England, but had gone to Brazil aged 10 with his parents and siblings ● he married (2) © 18 JUN 1971, Fairfax, Virginia, USA, Virginia Pauline Solem née Reese, born 24 MAY 1921, daughter of John David Reese and Pauline Rose Goetz^CERT ● his son comments (2017): “she was an American, and they settled in Florida after my father's retirement from his work in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil” ● nothing more is known about him
	2 DAUGHTERS (neither have children), 1 SON yyy, all born in Brazil but living in England^FAM – SEE NEXT PAGE

	ERNEST HENRY GODFREY’s CHILDREN WALES
6G..	GWENDOLINE DOROTHY GODFREY						GENERATION 6
	born 9 AUG 1918^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales R/D^BMD			died 13 MAR 2011, residence place at death Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales^BMD, age 93
	married Q4 1956, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales R/D, CEDRIC LEONARD K. COLES^BMD, son of Albert F. Coles, general labourer engineer …., and Ethel E. --?^CENSUS
	born 2 NOV 1916^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}			died MAR 1989, South Glamorgan, Glamorgan, Wales R/D^BMD, age 72
i	nothing more is known about Cedric Leonard K. Coles
	CHILDREN?
	FREDERICK GEORGE GAY I’s CHILDREN
6G..	REGINALD STAINER GAY						GENERATION 6
	born 26 MAR 1913^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD			died 9 MAR 1994^WILL, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 81
	married Q3 1939, Hendon, Middlesex R/D, LEONARA [sic] K. PEARCE^BMD
	born 6 SEP 1916^CENSUS			died Q2 1968, Bath, Somerset R/D^BMD, age 51
i	nothing more is known about Leonara K. Pearce
	possibly 1 DAUGHTER, 1 SON^BMD – SEE NEXT PAGE
	possible CHILDREN	BORN					NOTES

GENERATION 7

WILFRID GODFREY POPE’s CHILDREN
7G..	D				GENERATION 7



i
	CHILDREN	BORN			NOTES

	AUBREY GODFREY WILLMOTT’s CHILDREN
7G..	JOHN BRYAN WILLMOTT				GENERATION 7
	born 9 DEC 1937^{CENSUS, DEATH BMD}, Blofield, Norfolk R/D^BMD			died 24 FEB 2015, residence place at death Norwich, Norfolk^BMD, age 78
	married Q1 1958, Acle, Norfolk R/D, PHYLLIS M. BARNARD?^BMD
	born ?
i	nothing more is known about Phyllis M. Barnard
	possibly 2 SONS, GRANDCHILDREN^BMD – SEE NEXT PAGE
	possible CHILDREN		BORN		NOTES


	REGINALD STAINER GAY’s CHILDREN
7G..	R				GENERATION 7



i
	CHILDREN?

7G..	J				GENERATION 7





i
	CHILDREN?

GENERATION 8

JOHN BRYAN WILLMOTT’s CHILDREN
8G..	P					GENERATION 8



i
	possible CHILDREN	BORN				NOTES




8G..	D					GENERATION 8



i
	possible CHILDREN	BORN				NOTES





NOTHING MORE IS KNOWN ABOUT THESE FAMILIES

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