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14 OCTOBER 2016

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GAY FAMILY HISTORY

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EPHRAIM GAY’s family

 

THE GAY FAMILY, BROUGHTON GIFFORD, WILTSHIRE

including THE PIPER FAMILY, MORTLAKE, SURREY, HILLINGDON, MIDDLESEX, and READING, BERKSHIRE

THE DAY FAMILY, WILTSHIRE

THE FOWLES FAMILY, BRISTOL, GLOS?/BATH, SOMERSET

 

possible connection with the Spencer family (Princess Diana’s family) – see John Gay II (below)

 

GENERATIONS ARE NUMBERED FROM THE FIRST TRACED ANCESTOR, THOMAS GAY (about 1763?-1838?), AND HAVE THE FOLLOWING BACKGROUND COLOUR:

 

1

4

7

10

13

 

2

5

8

11

14

 

3

6

9

12

15

 

JAMES GAY’s CHILDREN (continued)

EPHRAIM GAY’s FAMILY

 

3G..

EPHRAIM GAY

GENERATION

3

 

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born about 1827, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

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died 17 JAN 1885, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT, age 58

 

married (1) 28 NOV 1849, Parish Church, Bradford on Avon, Wilts, ANN EARL, daughter of James Earl, cloth worker, and Catherine --

 

 

born about 1826, Holt, Wilts

died 1861~71

 

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married (2) 14 JAN 1871, Independent Chapel, Holt, Wilts, CHARLOTTE FOX, daughter of Richard Wansey West Fox and Sabina Lasbury

 

born 23 JUN? 1848, Bradford, Wilts

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died 24 DEC 1927, Ealing, Middx, age 79 [died of chronic nephritis]

 

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● The National Archives hold the following documents:

a) Ephraim Gay, born Wiltshire: Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Woolwich 1847 (when aged 21), Discharged [discharge date not given] as [discharge reason not given].

b) Ephraim Gay, born: Broughton, Wiltshire; Age at attestation: 21; Attested: Woolwich; Joined in: 1847; Discharge reason: Paid £20; Discharge year: 1850 (does this mean he PAID £20 to get OUT of the Royal Marines?)

● this would make him born around 1826

● in his first marriage certificate, 1849, he is described as a Marine

 

● the fact that he married the first time in the Parish Church, but second time in an Independent Chapel, suggests leanings towards the family’s eventual membership of the Plymouth Brethren – see GEORGE EDWARD GAY, BELOW

● the family moved to Bath, Somerset, 1891~1901CENSUS, so leaving Broughton Gifford, Wilts

 

● there was another EPHRAIM GAY in Wiltshire at the same time, born about 1822, Staverton, Wilts, son of Ned Gay, married 24 DEC 1843, Trowbridge, Wilts, RUTH RICKETTS, daughter of John Ricketts, weaver ©, died 17 APR 1889 ©, Plymouth, Devon, variously described as cloth worker, agricultural labourer, saw sharpener, children Eliza, William – no apparent connection

● a great-granddaughter writes “I had heard that Charlotte Gay had been very poor and was "on the Parish" (receiving parochial relief), as Corsham is nearby and Auntie Vicky [Charlotte’s grandson Frederick Ephraim Alfred Day’s wife, Nancy Victoria Fitzgerald Day] had once sent me a postcard with a picture of her home on it

 

● nothing more is known about Ann Earl

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

ALBERT JAMES GAY II

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8 JUL 1856, Holt, Wilts

14 JUN 1917, Corsham, WiltsWILL, age 60 WILL

SEE BELOW

 

RUTH GAY II

12 FEB 1859, Holt, Wilts

25 DEC 1906, Great Northern Hospital, Kings Cross, MiddxWILL, age 47 WILL

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

 

JOHN GAY II

18 JUN? 1872, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

31 JAN 1942. Australia, age 69, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia

SEE BELOW

 

FRANCES EMILY GAY

13 JAN 1874CERT, CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT

11 JUN 1954, Yiewsley, West Drayton, MiddxWILL, age 80 WILL

 

EDITH GAY

20 NOV 1875, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT

3 DEC 1947, Drummuir Nursing Home, Northfield, Bridgewater, SomersetWILL, age 72 WILL

 

ELLEN GAY II "Nell"

9 DEC 1877CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT

Q4 1954, Bristol, Glos R/D, age 76?BMD

 

ARTHUR GAY

22 SEP 1879, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

?

nothing more is known about him

 

FREDERICK GEORGE GAY II

16 JUN 1881, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

7 JUN 1905, Bath, Somerset R/D, age 23 [died of autonæmia diabetes]

RAILWAY EMPLOYMENT RECORD

● unmarried?

● nothing more is known about him

 

HENRY GAY III

28 AUG 1882CERT, CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCENSUS

26 MAR 1947, Brentford, Middx R/D, age 64 WILL

SEE BELOW

 

GEORGE EDWARD GAY

25 MAR 1884, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

5 FEB 1954, Ealing, Middx, age 69 WILL

 

OTHERS?

 

EPHRAIM GAY’s CHILDREN

 

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ALBERT JAMES GAY II

GENERATION

4

 

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born 8 JUL 1856, Holt, Wilts

died 14 JUN 1917, Corsham, WiltsWILL, age 60 WILL

 

married 31 OCT 1891, Baptist Chapel, Hilperton, Wilts, MARY JANE HORNER, his cousin, daughter of Thomas Horner and Charlotte(a) Gay II

 

baptized 8 JAN 1860, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

died Q4 1908, Melksham, Wilts, R/D, age 50

 

CHILDREN?

● no children by 1911 census

 

 

 

4G..

JOHN GAY II

GENERATION

4

 

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born 18 JUN? 1872, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

died 31 JAN 1942, Australia, age 69, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia

 

married 16 DEC 1893, Melksham R/O, Wilts, LYDIA ALFORD later SAWYER, daughter of Samuel Sawyer?, agricultural labourerCERT and Hannah Alford…..

 

 

born 9 JUL 1871, Whitley, Wilts

died 5 OCT 1951, Australia, age 80, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia

 

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● John emigrated to Canada in 1900, with Lydia, Spenser Fox and Bernard John, but not Frederick, returned to England DEC 1911, having sailed from Portland, Oregon, USA, and emigrated again to Australia in 1912, with Frederick as wellPASSENGER LISTS

● for the Australian family, see http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/a/d/a/Edward-J-Adair/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html#Gay, although this site does contain some errors and omissions

 

● Samuel Sawyer and Hannah Alford weren’t married until a year after Lydia was born, so her father might have been someone else – see below

● the above site has Lydia as Lydia Maud Sawyer, but the name Maud doesn’t occur anywhere else, and it has not been possible to contact the author of the site to check this point

 

● there is a family story that there is some connection to the family of Earl Spencer, Princess Diana’s family – nothing more is known, and the story doesn’t specifically mention this family, but certainly Spenser (Spencer) Fox’s name is strange – Fox is his paternal grandmother’s maiden name – could Spencer be the name of his maternal grandfather, ie. Lydia Alford later Sawyer’s real father? Why else would Lydia have called her son Spencer? No connection with the Spencers have been found in the official records, but other records might tell otherwise. The story also mentions Australia, where the family certainly emigrated to

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

FREDERICK GAY

 

about 1894

?, Australia?

● it is unclear whether he was John’s son

● it is said he “died without heirs”FAM

● nothing more is known about him

 

SPENSER (SPENCER) FOX GAY

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21 APR 1894, Trowbridge, Wilts

7 MAY 1964, Willunga?, South AustraliaBMD, age 70

SEE BELOW

 

BERNARD JOHN GAY

 

6 DEC 1895?, Berkhamstead, Herts

19 SEP….. 1959, Perth, Western AustraliaBMD, age 63, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia

 

OTHERS?

 

 

 

4G..

FRANCES EMILY GAY

GENERATION

4

 

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born 13 JAN 1874CERT,  CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT

died 11 JUN 1954, Yiewsley, West Drayton, MiddxWILL, age 80 WILL

 

 

married Q4 1892, Richmond, Surrey R/D, SAMUEL CHARLES PIPERBMD, son of Edward Piper, grocer, and Sarah Hamblin?

 

 

born 14 JUN 1870CENSUS, Barnes, SurreyCENSUS

died 11 FEB 1955, St Bernards Hospital, Southall. MiddxWILL, age 84 WILL

 

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● unlike other members of the Gay family, Frances Emily was Baptist, and Samuel Charles MethodistFAM

● their granddaughter says

● she believes they went their separate ways on a Sunday morning

● she knows that their daughter Frances Amy and Olive May, their son Edward George's wife, used to visit their Gay relatives in Ealing, and drank their tea in a separate room

● and thinks she remember Frances Amy saying that the Ealing contingent became dissatisfied with the Plymouth Brethren and became Exclusive Brethren

 

● nothing more is known about Samuel Charles Piper

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

 

SAMUEL JOHN PIPER

Q1 1895BMD, Mortlake, SurreyCENSUS

Q1 1938, Wandsworth, Surrey R/DBMD, age 42 [his niece thinks he died of some kind of complications from having meningitis as a child - he also suffered from epilepsyFAM]

● his niece is almost certain that John did not marry

● from the little his sister said he probably had mental health issues

● nothing more is known about him

 

 

EDWARD GEORGE PIPER

6 OCT 1897CENSUS, Mortlake, SurreyCENSUS

28 MAR 1958, Yiewsley, MiddxWILL, age 60 WILL [died of lung cancerFAM]

SEE BELOW

 

 

IRENE ISABEL PIPER

Q1 1900, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD

Q1 1900, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD, age 0

nothing more is known about her

 

 

LILIAN DOROTHY PIPER

31 MAR 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Hillingdon Heath, MiddxCENSUS

5 DEC 1996WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 90

SEE BELOW

 

 

FRANCES AMY PIPER

28 JUL 1913CENSUS, Spencers Wood, Reading, BerksFAM

7 OCT 1987FAM, Hillingdon, Middx R/DBMD, age 74 [died from problems with her heart as a complication from the rheumatic fever she had as a childFAM]

 

● total 4 children by 1911 census, of whom 1 died before

 

 

 

4G..

EDITH GAY

GENERATION

4

 

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born 20 NOV 1875, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT

died 3 DEC 1947, Drummuir Nursing Home, Northfield, Bridgewater, SomersetWILL, age 72 WILL

 

 

married Q3 1899, Bath, Somerset, EDWIN FERRIS DAY, son of Lot Winslow Day, postman, and Ruth Ferris

 

 

born 31 OCT 1864CENSUS, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS

died (Q3?) 1945, Weston, Somerset R/D?, age about 81

 

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nothing more is known about Edwin Ferris Day

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

EDITH THEODORA DAY “Cousin Dora”

11 MAR 1900CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS

4 MAY 1982WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 82 WILL

● unmarried

● lived as Edith Mary Hood Gay’s (her aunt’s) companion for years

● nothing more is known about her

 

EDWIN HARRY DAY

26 JAN 1902CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS

9 JUN 1986WILL, Bridgwater, SomersetFAM, age 84 WILL

SEE BELOW

 

FREDERICK EPHRAIM ALFRED DAY

“Cousin Fred”

14 AUG 1913DEATH BMD, Chippenham, Wilts R/DBMD

19 APR 1999WILL, Nottingham, Notts R/D, age 85, buried Biddestone, SomersetFAM

 

● total 2 children by 1911 census, both alive

 

 

 

4G..

ELLEN GAY II "Nell"

GENERATION

4

 

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born 9 DEC 1877CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, WiltsCERT

died Q4 1954, Bristol, Glos R/D, age 76?BMD

 

 

married Q2 1903, Bath, Somerset, HENRY FOWLES, son of William Fowles?, and Sophia Targett?

 

 

born 11 JUN 1875CENSUS. Bath, SomersetCENSUS

died Q2 1966, Bristol, Glos R/D, age 90?BMD

 

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nothing more is known about Henry Fowles

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

● a family source says that this family were all born in Bristol, Glos, but records show Bath, Somerset R/D

 

ARTHUR RICHARD FREDERICK FOWLES

3 MAR 1904DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos?FAM / Twerton, SomersetCENSUS / Bath, Somerset R/DBMD

Q2 1976, Hounslow, Middx R/DBMD, age 72

SEE BELOW

 

FREDA IRENE GRACE FOWLES

19 MAY 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Twerton, Somerset CENSUS

9 MAY 1992WILL, Bristol, Glos, age 86 WILL

● unmarried

● nothing more is known about her

 

LOIS FOWLES

19 NOV 1907CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Twerton, Somerset CENSUS

9 MAR 1980, California, USABMD, age 72

SEE BELOW

 

MARION EDNA G. FOWLES

22 APR 1916CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD

21 JUN 1993WILL, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD, age 77 WILL

 

● total 3 children by 1911 census, all alive

 

 

 

4G..

HENRY GAY III

PHOTOS

ALTERNATE PHOTO PAGE

W I L L

GENERATION

4

 

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born 28 AUG 1882CERT, CENSUS, Broughton Gifford, Wilts CENSUS

died 26 MAR 1947, Brentford, Middx R/D, age 64 WILL

 

married 30 APR 1910, Bath R/O, Somerset, EDITH MARY HOOD, daughter of Cornelius Sydney Hood, coachman, and Mary Anne Critcher

W I L L

 

 

born 6 OCT 1890CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Stoke Bishop, Glos

died 20 JUL 1980, Heathermoor Nursing Home, Park Lane, Barnstaple, DevonWILL, age 89, buried 24 JUL 1980 WILL

 

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● Henry and George Edward went to Canada, arriving APR 1906 on the PARISIAN (steerage)

● on 7 AUG 1906 they crossed the border into the USA at Detroit, bound for Indianapolis, Indiana

● George Edward returned to the UK, arriving 20 JAN 1908 at Liverpool on the CAMPANIA (3rd class), but Henry is not listedPASSENGER LISTS

● unfortunately, the reason for their choosing Indianapolis is unknown – although their elder brother was living in Canada at that time, there is no evidence that they went to see, or stayed with, him – they did not give any addresses or names of relatives

● the date for Henry’s  return to the UK has not been found yet

● the reason for this trip of several months is unknown – it can only be surmised that they went with a view to emigrating, but changed their minds

● George Edward’s daughter Monica Lillian thought they may have gone more than once, but so far only one trip has been found, and if they went with a view to emigrating but changed their minds, they would hardly have made more than one trip

 

● Henry and Edith Mary eventually moved to Ealing, Middx, sometime between 1911CENSUS and 1921LILLY MAY BUNKER GAY’S DEATH CERTIFICATE

● sometime before 1939PHONE BOOK, CENSUS they moved to a big house at 101 The Avenue, which for years was almost a “family home” for their “grandchildren”

 

● together with his brother George Edward, Henry set up GAY BROTHERS, an engineering firm

 

● Henry and Edith Mary brought up George Edward’s children after the latter’s 1st wife died

 

● Edith Mary visited the USA in 1952 - 45 years after her husband - departing 29 APR, arriving New York 5 MAY, and returning from Quebec, Canada, arriving 14 AUG

● on her US immigration form she stated she was visiting relatives (an E. A. Hood) in California, so it is unknown whether she visited any Gay relatives in the USA or Canada

●she travelled with a Charlotte R. Hunter of 26 College Close, Harrow Weald, Middx, housewife, age 65 (so born about 1887)

● in the 1926-36 Electoral Registers Albert and Charlotte R. Hunter were living at 40 St Kilda’s Road, Harrow, Middx

● Edith Mary had a sister, Charlotte Rachel Hood, born Q3 1886, Stoke Bishop, Glos – Charlotte R. Hood married Q4 1919, Uckfield, Sussex R/D, Albert Hunter, and at least 4 Hunter children, mother’s maiden name Hood, were born 1920-5 in Uckfield, Sussex R/D – one of these was Maurice Hunter, born Q2 1924 – family sources say Henry Gay’s niece, Marion Fowles, born 1916, married a Morris Hunter, so there MAY be some connection, or this MAY just be a coincidence – no Hunter/Fowles marriage has been found

● so it looks as though the 2 Hood sisters went to California to see their (Hood) relatives

(all this information taken from BMD, CENSUS, PASSENGER LISTS)

 

● in old age, Edith Mary and her companion, her husband’s niece, Edith Theodora Day, both moved to Barnstaple to be near the Day family

● Edith Mary died in the Park Lane Nursing Home a little while later

● Edith Theodora continued to live in their house until her deathFAM

 

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1882

birth certificate

Broughton Gifford, Wilts

 

1891

census

at home, Boughton Street, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

 

1901

at home, 1 Fairfield View, Bath, Somerset

 

1910

marriage certificate

51 Coronation Avenue, Bath, Somerset

 

1911

census

 

1921

Lilly May Bunker Gay’s death certificate

70 Deans Road, Hanwell, Middx

 

1926

electoral register

 

1928-33

137 Leighton Road, Ealing, Middx

 

1929

will

 

1934+

phone book

213 Boston Manor Road, Brentford, Middx

 

1935-7

electoral register

 

about 1938

they must have moved

 

1939

1939 Register, electoral register, phone book

101 The Avenue,

Ealing, Middx

a curiosity: in the electoral registers and on old Ordnance Survey maps, there is no number 103 The Avenue - the number must have been kept free for the land where the double garage was, where there's now the new double fronted house - so their property must have been counted as occupying 2 parcels of land

 

1939 until death

phone book

 

until 1976

Edith Mary at the same address

 

1980

probate record

Edith Mary’s home address Heathermoor Nursing Home, Park Lane, Barnstaple, Devon

as her niece and companion Edith Theodora Day’s probate record gives her address as 2 Pill Lane, Barnstaple, Devon, and as the latter’s niece writes that she “continued to live in their [shared] house until her death”, this presumably was also Edith Mary’s last home

 

for photos of the various homes ► PHOTOS

 

NO CHILDREN

 

 

 

4G..

GEORGE EDWARD GAY

PHOTOS

ALTERNATE PHOTO PAGE

W I L L

GENERATION

4

 

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born 25 MAR 1884, Broughton, WiltsCERT

©

died 5 FEB 1954, Ealing, Middx, age 69 [myocarditis, diabetes, bronchitis] WILL

 

married (1) 20 MAY 1909, Bath R/O, Somerset, LILLY MAY BUNKER, daughter of Joseph Bunker VIII and Elizabeth Arnold II

 

born 9 MAY 1882, Painswick, Glos

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died 5 DEC 1921, Ealing, MiddxCERT, age 39, buried 7 DEC 1921, South Ealing Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxCEMETERY RECORDS  [died of diphtheria]

 

married (2) 14 APR 1934, Brentford R/O, Middx, MURIEL ETHEL SMITH, daughter of Robert William Smith, builder, and Elizabeth --

 

born 18 APR 1888CENSUS, Bayswater, MiddxCENSUS

 

died 24 OCT 1968WILL, Ealing, Middx R/DBMD, age 80 WILL

 

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● see notes under George Edward’s brother Henry’s entry re their trip to the USA

 

● George Edward and Lilly May moved to Redhill, Surrey 1909~11CENSUS, then eventually to Ealing, Middx 1912~13CHILDREN’s BMD

 

● together with his brother Henry he set up GAY BROTHERS, an engineering firm

 

● there was an outbreak of diphtheria in 1921, and Lilly May, and their children Philip Lawrence and Eunice Margaret, all died

● the other children were brought up by George Edward’s brother Henry and his wife Edith Mary

● Lilly May’s father, Joseph Bunker VIII, appeared in court in 1883 for not having had her vaccinated – his 2xgreat-granddaughter comments: it'd be ironic if it was the vaccination against diptheria, that being what she died of less than 40 years later, in his own lifetime!

 

● George Edward belonged to the PLYMOUTH BRETHREN religious sect, so his daughters had a strict upbringing, and had little contact with their non-Plymouth Brethren relatives, which is why we know little about the latter

● George Edward’s great-niece writes “I think that the first Plymouth Brethren were the Gay brothers and my Granny Day [their sister Edith Gay Day]. Certainly my parents were, and also Auntie Dora [Edith Theodora Day]. My maternal grandparents also became Plymouth Brethren, and that is how my parents met”

 

● Lilly May was an artist, like her father ► BUNKER FAMILY PHOTOS

 

@

1884

birth certificate

Broughton Gifford, Wilts

 

1891

census

at home, Boughton Street, Broughton Gifford, Wilts

 

1901

at home, 1 Fairfield View, Bath, Somerset

 

1909

marriage certificate

92 Regent Road, Salford, Somerset (Regent Road can’t be found on Google, neither can Salford – the latter MAY really be Saltford, west of Bath)

 

1911

census

“Shaftesbury”, 13 Althorne Road, Earlswood, Surrey

 

1912

children’s birth certificates

13 Althorne Road, Redhill, Surrey

 

1913

66 Deans Road, Hanwell, Middx

 

1918

7 Camborne Avenue, Ealing, Middx

 

1921

wife’s death certificate

 

1926

Electoral Register

70 Deans Road, Hanwell, Middx

 

1927

mother’s death certificate

137 Leighton Road, Ealing, Middx

 

1928-1936

Electoral Register

 

1929-1938

phone book

 

1939 until death

Wyke”, 12 Warwick Road, Ealing, Middx

 

1954

death certificate

 

until 1968

phone book, probate record

Muriel Ethel at the same address

 

for photos of the various homes ► PHOTOS

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

PHILIP LAWRENCE GAY

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2 MAR 1912, Redhill, Surrey

 

Q4 1921, Ealing, Middx, age 9, buried 25 NOV  1921, South Ealing Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxCEMETERY RECORDS    [died of diphtheria]

nothing more is known about him

 

GRACE RUBY GAYGracie

14 OCT 1913, Hanwell, Middx

©

19 DEC 1993, West Wimbledon, Surrey, age 80FAM, cremated 7 JAN 1994, North East Surrey Crematorium, Morden, Surrey FAM

SEE BELOW

 

RUTH MILDRED GAY “Billie

 

23 OCT 1914, Brentford, Middx R/D

 

20 MAR 1999WILL, Kingston upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 84, cremated …..

 

FRANCES MARY GAY “Frankie”

 

9 APR 1916, Brentford, Middx R/D

 

11 JAN 1998WILL, Surrey Northern R/DBMD, age 81

 

EUNICE MARGARET GAY

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4 AUG 1918, Ealing, Middx

 

Q4 1921, Ealing, Middx, age 3, buried 29 NOV  1921, South Ealing Cemetery, Ealing, MiddxCEMETERY RECORDS    [died of diphtheria]

nothing more is known about them

 

STEPHEN MARTIN GAY

 

8 FEB 1920, Brentford, Middx R/D

 

6 NOV 1933, Ealing, Middx, age 13 [died of TB]

 

MONICA LILLIAN GAY

 

30 JUN 1921FAM, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD

 

16 JAN 2013, Kingston upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 92, cremated

SEE BELOW

 

JOHN GAY II’s CHILDREN

AUSTRALIA

 

5G..

SPENSER (SPENCER) FOX GAY

PHOTOS

GENERATION

5

 

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born 21 APR 1894, Trowbridge, WiltsCERT

died 7 MAY 1964, Willunga?, South AustraliaBMD, age 70

 

 

married 12 SEP 1921, Perth, Western Australia, CATHERINE AGNES WALKER, daughter of daughter of John Walker and Catherine MacDonald MacLennanFAM THE WALKER FAMILY

● it has not been possible to contact the author of this site, so no guarantee can be given for the accuracy of the site

 

 

born 13 JUL 1891, Kilbirnie, Ayrshire Scotland

died 1952, Perth, Western Australia, age 60, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Western Australia

 

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● SPENSER is the name in the birth certificate, his legal name, even if, let’s suppose, his parents wanted to call him SPENCER, and the name was just miswritten!

● however, in other online records, the name is written as both SPENSER and SPENCER

 

● as Catherine Agnes’ sister, Isabel MacDonald Walker, also died in Perth, perhaps they emigrated together

● nothing more is known about her

 

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

JOHN SPENCER WALKER GAY “Jack”

24 JUN 1922/4, Perth, Western Australia

22 JUL 1997FAM, Australia?, age 73-5

SEE BELOW

 

BERNARD ALFORD GAY “Bunny”

6 MAY 1923, Murray, Western Australia

8 DEC 1942, HMAS Armidale, Timor Sea, age 19, commemorated Plymouth Naval Memorial Cemetery, Devon, England (WW2 casualty)

● moved to Tasmania or S. AustraliaFAM

● nothing more is known about him

 

FRANCIS PATRICK GAY “Franny

24 JUL 1924, Australia

17 JUN 1956….. / 1955, Perth, Western AustraliaBMD, age 31

nothing more is known about him

 

JAMES ALLEN GAY “Allen”

21 AUG 1926, Perth, Western Australia

17 JUL 1979, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia, age 52, cremated Selfs Point, Hobart, buried Cornelian Bay Cemetery, Hobart, Tasmania

SEE BELOW

 

 

 

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BERNARD JOHN GAY

WW1 MILITARY ENROLMENT

GENERATION

5

 

born 6 DEC 1895?, Berkhamstead, Herts

died 19 SEP 1959, Perth, Western AustraliaBMD, age 63, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia

 

married 1926, Perth, Australia, DOROTHY LANDER

 

born about 1908?

died 1997, Australia?, age 89?, buried Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth, Australia?

 

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Bernard John founded a plant nursery in Gosnells known as B.J. Gay, now Sunnyvale Nursery, which still exists and is still run by the family

 

4 CHILDREN, 6 GRANDCHILDREN, 8 GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

FRANCES EMILY GAY’s CHILDREN

THE PIPER FAMILY, MORTLAKE, SURREY, HILLINGON, MIDDLESEX, and READING, BERKSHIRE

 

5G..

EDWARD GEORGE PIPER

GENERATION

5

 

 

born 6 OCT 1897CENSUS, Mortlake, SurreyCENSUS

died 28 MAR 1958, Yiewsley, MiddxWILL, age 60 WILL [died of lung cancerFAM]

 

 

married Q4 1928, Weymouth, Dorset R/D, OLIVE MAY CONSTABLEBMD, HUSBAND’s WILL

 

 

born 27 DEC 1907CENSUS, DEATH BMD

Q2 1976, Lambeth, Surrey R/DBMD. age 68

 

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nothing more is known about Olive MAY Constable

 

 

4 CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, including the HENLEY, HALLIGAN and KEEGEL families, Australia – SEE NEXT PAGE

 

 

 

 

5G..

LILIAN DOROTHY PIPER

GENERATION

5

 

born 31 MAR 1906CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Hillingdon Heath, MiddxCENSUS

died 5 DEC 1996WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 90

 

married Q4 1927, Uxbridge, Middx R/D, LESLIE ALBERT POPEBMD

 

born 26 DEC 1904CENSUS, DEATH BMD

died 18 NOV 1976WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 71 WILL

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nothing more is known about Leslie Albert Pope

 

1 SON, GRANDCHILD(REN) – SEE NEXT PAGE

 

5G..

FRANCES AMY PIPER

GENERATION

5

 

born 28 JUL 1913CENSUS, Spencers Wood, Reading, BerksFAM

died 7 OCT 1987FAM, Hillingdon, Middx R/DBMD, age 74 [died from problems with her heart as a complication from the rheumatic fever she had as a childFAM]

 

married Q4 1931, Uxbridge, Middx R/D, WILLIAM GEORGE HARRIS/STEPHENSBMD, son of – Harris and Lilian --, separated

 

born 13 JAN 1912CENSUS

died JUN 1999, Hillingdon, Middlesex R/D, age 87?BMD

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● Frances Amy was born above the grocery shop that her parents owned in Spencers Wood, now a suburb of Reading, BerksFAM

● although there is only 1 marriage record online, with William G. Harris, there are 2 death entries for her, as Francis Amy Harris and Francis Amy Stephens

● likewise, there is only 1 birth record for her daughters, under Harris, but 2 marriage entries, under Harris and Stephens

● William George’s daughter says: “Grandma Lilian [Stephens] owned a large plot of land from which she ran kennels. She built herself a rather grand house and there were two bungalows, one for us and one for aunt Marguerite. Marguerite married [1949] Jim Taylor who played football for Fulham. Their wedding was a very well attended affair with most of Yiewsley turning out to see Tommy Trinder and well known footballers of the time”

● the death record is for William George Stephens, born 13 JAN 1912

● nothing more is known about him

 

2 DAUGHTERS, GRANDCHILDREN, including the J--- and R---- families – SEE NEXT PAGE

 

EDITH GAY’s CHILDREN

THE DAY FAMILY, WILTSHIRE

5G..

EDWIN HARRY DAY

GENERATION

5

 

born 26 JAN 1902CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Corsham, WiltsCENSUS

died 9 JUN 1986WILL, Bridgwater, SomersetFAM, age 84 WILL

 

married Q3 1939, Ashton, Lancs R/D, EILEEN SHEILA McILWAINBMD, daughter of Samuel McIlwain, shed groom, and Annie, both IrishCENSUS

 

born 11 JUL 1910DEATH BMD, Whitchurch ShropshireCENSUS

died 6 SEP 1994WILL, Barnstaple, Devon R/DBMD, age 84

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● their daughter writes “Samuel McIlwain’s family had a farm in Ballynahinch, County Down. However when his mother died his father remarried and the first family had to leave so that the second family had the farm. I have always felt sad about that - it must have been very hard for him and his siblings”

● also “Although Grandmother [Annie -- McIlwain] came from Southern Ireland she was a Protestant, but I am not sure at what stage in their marriage they became Plymouth Brethren - anyway, that is how my parents met”

● nothing more is known about Eileen Sheila McIlwain

 

4 DAUGHTERS, 1 SON, GRANDCHILDREN, including the DAVIS familyFAM, BMD- SEE NEXT PAGE

 

 

 

 

 

5G..

FREDERICK EPHRAIM ALFRED DAY “Cousin Fred”FAM

GENERATION

5

 

born 14 AUG 1913DEATH BMD, Chippenham, Wilts R/DBMD

died 19 APR 1999WILL, Nottingham, Notts R/D, age 85, buried Biddestone, SomersetFAM

 

married Q2 1940, Richmond R/D (see below), NANCY VICTORIA FITZGERALDBMDVicky”FAM, daughter of – Fitzgerald and – Dickinson?BMD

 

born 30 NOV 1914CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Lewisham, Kent R/D?BMD

died FEB 1999, Bath and North East Somerset R/DBMD, age 84, buried Biddestone, SomersetFAM

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● there were 2 Richmond R/Ds, in Surrey and Yorkshire – the one in Surrey was incorporated into Surrey Northern R/D in 1934, so the marriage must have taken place in the Yorkshire one

● Frederick Ephraim Alfred and Nancy Victoria moved to Biddestone, near Bath, Somerset, in their retirement (he had worked all over the world prior to that), and were both buried thereFAM

● their niece writes “I do not remember where [their son] C. was born. All I remember from Auntie Dora [Edith Theodora Day] was that Auntie Vicky had gone for a hysterectomy only to find that she was pregnant! The result of that being C. Must have been a shock”

● Nancy Victoria Fitzgerald “Vicky” was of Irish descent and a Catholic, which was frowned upon by the Plymouth Brethren family (see GEORGE EDWARD GAY, above) into which she married

● nothing more is known about her

 

3 SONS, GRANDCHILDRENFAM, BMD - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

 

ELLEN GAY II’s CHILDREN

THE FOWLES FAMILY, BRISTOL, GLOS?/ BATH, SOMERSET

5G..

ARTHUR RICHARD FREDERICK FOWLES

GENERATION

5

 

born 3 MAR 1904DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos?FAM / Twerton, SomersetCENSUS / Bath, Somerset R/DBMD

died Q2 1976, Hounslow, Middx R/DBMD, age 72

 

married Q3 1933, West Ham, Essex R/D, MERCY GRACE BRADFORDBMD

 

born 24 DEC 1904CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Hackney, Middx R/DBMD

died AUG 1984, Richmond, Surrey R/DBMD, age 79

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● Arthur Richard Frederick’s the death record gives the birth date as 3 MAR 1906, but the year is presumably wrong

● nothing more is known about Mercy Grace Bradford

CHILDREN

BORN

DIED

NOTES

 

ALAN JOHN FOWLES

9 APR 1934CENSUS, Surrey North Eastern, Surrey R/DBMD

?

nothing more is known about him

 

5G..

LOIS FOWLES

GENERATION

5

 

born 19 NOV 1907CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Twerton, Somerset CENSUS

died 9 MAR 1980, California, USABMD, age 72

 

married 30 NOV 1944, Bristol, GlosUS NATURALIZATION RECORD, HARRY ROLAND HANCHERBMD, son of George Alfred? Hancher and Mary Jane? Cooper

 

born 12 FEB 1905DEATH BMD, Birmingham, WarksUS NATURALIZATION RECORD

died 10 NOV 1986, California, USABMD, age 81

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● they emigrated to the USA in 1947PASSENGER LISTS, and applied for Naturalization in the USA in 1948US NATURALIZATION RECORD

● nothing more is known about Harry Roland Hancher

● it is said they had CHILDRENFAM, but none have been found born in UK or CaliforniaBMD, and as of JUN 1948, they had no childrenUS NATURALIZATION RECORD

 

5G..

MARION EDNA G. FOWLES

GENERATION

5

 

born 22 APR 1916CENSUS, DEATH BMD, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD

died 21 JUN 1993WILL, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD, age 77 WILL

 

married Q3 1938, Bristol, Glos R/D, CHARLES ROBERT TURNERBMD

 

born 22 MAR 1904CENSUS, DEATH BMD

died OCT 1990, Bristol, Glos R/DBMD, age 86

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nothing more is known about Charles Robert Turner

 

2 DAUGHTERS, 1 SON, nothing more is known about them - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

 

GEORGE EDWARD GAY’s CHILDREN

EALING, MIDDX

5G..

GRACE RUBY GAYGracie

GENERATION

5

©

born 14 OCT 1913, Hanwell, Middx

©

died 19 DEC 1993, West Wimbledon, Surrey, age 80FAM, cremated 7 JAN 1994, North East Surrey Crematorium, Morden, SurreyFAM

 

married (1) LESLIE MORRISFAM

 

born 31 DEC 1906CENSUS

 

died ?

©

married (2) 30 APR 1945, Brackley R/O, Northants, JOHN STANLEY DURHAM, widower, son of Charles William Durham II and Ann(ie) Wigley VII

born 24 JAN 1894, Gravesend, Kent

©

died 12 SEP 1970, Joyce Green Hospital, Dartford, Kent CERT, age 76, cremated 16 SEP 1970 at ….. WILL

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● Grace Ruby and John Stanley were the AUTHOR’s parents

● Leslie was possibly from Brighton, and possibly died in WW2

● a Leslie Morris, born 31 DEC 1906, died JUL 1989, Fulham, Middx R/D, age 82BMD, but there is no certainty that it was the same man

● nothing more is known about him

● John Stanley had 3 children by his 1st marriage and 1 daughter and 1 stepdaughter by his 2nd marriage

2 CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN including the STYLES, HENDERSON and HOLWILL families - SEE NEXT PAGE - ► HENDERSON OF SOUTHWARK FAMILY TREE

 

5G..

RUTH MILDRED GAY “Billie

GENERATION

5

 

born 1914 OCT 23, Brentford, Middx R/D

died 20 MAR 1999WILL, Kingston upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 84, cremated …..

 

married (1) Q2 1940, Staines, Middx R/D, FRANCIS BOULTWOOD BRYDEN formerly BREIDENBACH, son of Francis Gertman L. Johann Maria Farina Breidenbach and Ada Boultwood, divorced 1960

FAMILY TREE

 

born 1910, Woolwich, Kent R/D? (Q1 1911)

died 16 MAR 1965, Bromley Hospital, KentWILL, age 54 WILL

 

married (2) Q4 1960, Tonbridge, Kent R/D, BERNARD ARTHUR GOODWINBMD

 

born 8 JUL 1910DEATH BMD / 9/12 JUL 1910?FAM, Medway, Kent R/DBMD

died 11 NOV 1983FAM / 13 NOV 1983WILL, ….. Hospital, Wandsworth, Surrey R/D, age 73, cremated … WILL

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● one of Ruth Mildred and Frances Boultwood’s sons writes “one of my early acts of infamy was to walk up to Orpington Station naked to meet my father off his train from the City. Great embarrassment for him as the crowds poured off the 6.30 from Victoria. I walked home with him, me inside his raincoat. A one-headed, two-armed, four-legged monster”

● Francis Boultwood’s great-grandfather, Franz Heinrich/Francis Henry Breidenbach (about 1813-1871) was born possibly in Cologne, Germany, immigrated to the UK, married a Court Perfumer, William Page’s daughter, Emily Ann Page (about 1817-1894), took over his perfumery business, which was established during the reign of King George III, and changed the name from PAGE to BREIDENBACH in 1836

● he was naturalized in 1847

● his children and grandchildren were all given the name of Johann Maria Farina within their names after the famous Eau de Cologne manufacturer (1682-1754)

● the surname was changed from Breidenbach to Bryden in 1916 owing to anti-German sentiment in the UK during WW1

● he married (2) Q2 1960, Westminster, Middx R/D, Rhoda Elizabeth Dawe, and had a sonBMD

► THE BREIDENBACH FAMILY – the site is however poor on family history

● Bernard Arthur had children by his previous marriage

4 CHILDREN, GRANDCHIDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, including the STEED families; Australia - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

5G..

FRANCES MARY GAY “Frankie”

GENERATION

5

 

born 9 APR 1916, Brentford, Middx R/D

died 11 JAN 1998WILL, Surrey Northern R/DBMD, age 81

 

married (1) Q2 1936, Brentford, Middx R/D, DENNIS HAMILTON COESHOTT, formerly COCKSHOTT, bank manager, son of Edgar Harry Cockshott, electrical engineer, tramways, and Ada Townend, divorced 1946

FAMILY TREE

PHOTOS

©

born 16 FEB 1907, Arnley, YorksCERT

©

died 5 DEC 1981. Royal Cornwall Hospital, Truro, Cornwall, age 74 [died of cardiac failure, pancreatic cancer]CERT

 

married (2) Q1 1948, Croydon, Surrey R/D, ERNEST A. F. MARTINEAU "Tony”, son of – Martineau and – Smith, divorced 1962

 

born Q4 1919, Wisbech, Cambs

died 1968, age about 49

 

married (3) 1964, STANLEY MOWBRAY

PHOTOS

 

born ?

died DEC 1988, Zimbabwe, Africa

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Dennis Hamilton’s family’s surname was changed from Cockshott to Coeshott in the 1930’sFAM

● he married (2) Q4 1948, Middlesex South, Middx R/DBMD, Brenda Dixon née Mackay, born Q3 1914, Chorlton, Lancs R/DBMD, died after 2000, S. AfricaFAM (mentioned in the S. African Government Gazette Notices to Creditors in Deceased Estates dated 16 MAY 2003)

● Brenda married (1) Q3 1939, Blackpool, Lancs R/DBMD, Joseph Fielden Dixon, and had 1 sonFAM, BMD

● nothing more is known about him

● Ernest A. F. was previously married to – Smith?, and had 1 sonBMD

● nothing more is known about him

● Stanley was previously married

● nothing more is known about him

4 CHILDREN and 1 ADOPTED SON, GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, including the HENDERSON, FULLER, RUTHIE, WHITE, HODKIN, NEIL, MARTIN, O’DWYER, WARDELL and GODDARD families - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

5G..

MONICA LILLIAN GAY

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

GENERATION

5

 

born 30 JUN 1921FAM, Brentford, Middx R/DBMD

died 16 JAN 2013, Kingston upon Thames, SurreyFAM, age 92, cremated 8 FEB 2013, Kingston Cemetery, SurreyFAM WILL

 

married (1) 1940, Gretna Green, Dumfries, ScotlandFAM, BMD, ANTHONY JOHN MICHAEL ASKEY formerly TEDESCHI, son of Giovanni Tedeschi/AskeyFAM (born in ItalyCENSUS) and Lucia AltucciniBMD

 

born 9 JUL 1914DEATH BMD, Fulham, Middx R/D?BMD

died 28 DEC 1986WILL, Sutton, Surrey R/DBMD, age 72, cremated ….., Putney Vale Cemetery, SurreyFAM WILL

 

married (2) APR 2006 or 2007, WILLIAM KITCHENFAM, widower?

 

born about 1921NEWSPAPER INTERVIEW

died 2008FAM

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● Anthony John Michael’s grandfather, Lorenzo Tedeschi and his family originally came from yyy, Italy, and immigrated to Great Britain sometime after 1891CENSUS and before 1894, when their 1st child born in England was bornCENSUS, BMD / in ….yyy

● there was already a Tedeschi family in Fulham, Middx R/D in the late 1880’sBMD – perhaps they were related, and Lorenzo Tedeschi, came from Italy to join his relative here

● the surname was changed from Tedeschi to Askey in …. – in the 1911 census, the name was still given as Tedeschi

● the birth record shows him as Anthony M. Tedeschi, the marriage record as both John M. A. Tedeschi and John Michael A. Askey, the death record as Anthony John M. Askey, the probate record as Anthony John Michael Askey

● ice cream …..yyy

● wine business YYY

● nothing more is known about him

● nothing more is known about William Kitchen

1st MARRIAGE: 4 CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDRENFAM - SEE NEXT PAGE

SPENSER (SPENCER) FOX GAY’s CHILDREN

6G..

JOHN SPENCER WALKER GAY “Jack”

GENERATION

6

 

born 24 JUN 1922/4, Perth, Western Australia

22 JUL 1997FAM, Australia?, age 73-5

 

married CLARICE MONTGOMERIE

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● John Spencer Walker’s birth record shows 1924, the military record 1922

● they moved to South Australia

● nothing more is known about Clarice Montgomerie

2 SONS, 2 DAUGHTERS - nothing more is known about them - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

5G..

JAMES ALLEN GAY “Allen”

GENERATION

6

 

born 21 AUG 1926, Perth, Western Australia

died 17 JUL 1979, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia, age 52, cremated Selfs Point, Hobart, buried Cornelian Bay Cemetery, Hobart, Tasmania

 

married 19 NOV 1948, Claremont, Perth, Western Australia, JOYCE MAY WALTON “Joy”, daughter of Thomas Rowell Walton, accountant with the Bank of Australasia, and his 2nd wife Ada Grace Broomfield

 

born 12 NOV 1924, North Perth, Western Australia

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(notes supplied by James Allen’s son)

● James Allen and Joyce MAY left Melbourne in 1969 and went to live in Hobart, Tasmania

● James Allen was a salesman for G.E.C, then managing director of a private electrical wholesaler, Delta Electrical Pty Ltd

● he always wore a bow tie, never a tie

● he loved practical jokes

● he played golf on a weekly basis with his business associates

● he served in the the Royal Australian Air Force 1944-6

nothing more is known about Joyce MAY Walton “Joy”

4 SONS, 6 GRANDCHILDREN - SEE NEXT PAGE

 

NOTES:

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R/D = Registration District

R/O = Register Office (for an explanation of these two terms, see homepage)

© = certificate available

i = odd notes

@ = addresses

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