Interview by FRANCESCO
PARMIGIANI
SOL' releases are always
ultra limited, is this a choice to reach with your music only an elite
of people, somebody who really can "fight" to have the possibility
to listen to your compositions,and not the usually "poor little
boys" that search only in the big record shops the music of mainstream
black metal acts? Do you think it's important to "limit" in
some ways people who can discover SOL? I mean "elite band for elite
people"?
Anyone can obtain our releases but that doesnt mean they will
GET it. The Law IS for All, regardless whether or not they get it. Now
if that automatikly confers elite I do not know. For instance
there is a certain spark plug that fits only a certain model engine
that my comerade searches for, I do not, is my comerade elite
whilst I wither? Certainly you would think that I would never GET it,
but then what if I did? Would I then be elite? Really the
main reason SOL releases are limited is basikly a financial one. That
and the fact that we didnt know that anyone particularly cared
to warrant more pressings, again, would that make one elite
or just droppings on the floor? Who knows? The simple fact is that grade
3 seems elite compared to kindergarten etc ad nauseum. Of course I could
always carry on about some elite wankery just to cover the fact that
we really are not the biggest thing on the market, which
would be fun but rather pointless unless we wanted one frail individual
in the outback who wanted to fit in and carry the mantle
of the elite being that he really is and join our horde
of misfits
First steps of SOL have to be searched in a band called Equimanthorn.
Can you tell us something about that period? Which were the reasons
that pushed you to abandon the Equimanthorn project to create SOL? It
seems that under both bands there was, and there is nowadays with SOL,
a very strong philosophical chasm, can you analyze it?
Hmmmmm interesting, yes the reason Camazotz left Equimanthorn was definitely
due to the philosophy/lifestyle difference. Now if I read your question
right and say that there is (or has been) a difference or chasm of philosophies
within SOL also I would have to agree, indeed SOL has gone through two
scisms directly related to the philosophy, so far as my perception of
the situation is anyhow. First we have one member doing a project called
Vomitor and another doing a project called Grippuid,
if you come across any of these releases you will certainly be able
to see the chasms between the philosophies. Walk the talk,
etc. Or are you meaning the differences between SOL and the world at
large? But this kind of stuff is pretty obvious so we wont be
going into that, for now. It seems that Equimanthorn was just some kinda
off season training for the main offensive that became SOL666, a course
to highlight the fundamentals needed to carry the torch, so to speak.
I remember that when you released the demo "Nazi occult metal",
you labeled your music as "disgusting" black metal. This is
a real strange and unusual way to label black metal. Why did you use
the word "disgusting"? Do you also think your other works
can be labeled in the same way? Today's black metal is for sure not
so "disgusting", a lot of bands have changed their primitive
sound in something nice to sell more records. Where do you think is
the music field where we can find nowadays "disgusting" music?
Unusual? Thats what black metal is mate, it is disgusting. Though
it is all relative, this much is obvious ja? It is revulsion at the
corrupt state of humanity in its downward spiral and all the dross that
comes with it. Bands WILL and should use different sounds and approaches
from time to time, they should evolve as a reflection of the true
self which should be liberated from all restrictions/dogmas, including
those of black metal or whatever the preferred artistik outlet is. That
is if one is conscious of ones actions to any small degree, angle
or square. Yes, our releases are still disgusting even if
from the point of view of the sleepwalker and his sterile sanitized
views of the way things are/should be. You see, you can have just as
false a disgusting style as you can a change to sell,
they are both directly linked to a manifestation of one or another particular
EGO. Whilst this is going on, one will never be free of the many. In
fact we can look at ones submission to the will of the egos,
as opposed to ones true WILL as true HERD mentality, a phrase
that many pseudo elitists enjoy bandying around. Interesting?
What do you think about today'society? Don't you think we're living
in the years of total decay?
Definitely, but from the greatest adversity comes the greatest triumph.
This is our greatest duty, to overcome. The greater the negative,
the greater the possible positive.
Which
is your approach to the lyrics? How much are they important for you?
The lyrics write themselves, as does the music. If one is passive and
receptive they just come. You know I often feel that there
are all these songs just floating around waiting to be picked
or something like that. At least there are all these components just
beyond the ordinary perceptive state, that one only has to cut
and paste together. An example of this is a song that I had floating
about in my head for quite some time, at least a couple of years. Or
more precisely a specific portion (chorus) and direction
of the tune. Funnily enough it was a kind of indy/underground jingle,
hence the reason we never utilised it, anyway
. I was listening
to the mainstream/alternative radio a while back and here is this geezer
crooning out the exact vocal and tune ! And thats not the first
time thats happened. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, Jack Palance persona must
be utilised for that last comment. What were we talking about? Oh yeah
, well the lyrix are 100% important to myself, though in saying that
they can be very simple and not necessarily (overly) intellectual to
have meaning and relevance. One day a certain lyric can be imbued with
great revelation, the next it can be the most insultingly painful experience,
when this occurs, move on. For example it is pointless to carry on bleating
about all this pseudo satanik evilness after the initial
barrier has been smashed to oblivion. It can be most fun from time to
time, but rather pointless to make a career of it. Dont you think?
Do you think it's right to define "Art" the music of SOL?
In general, what do you identify with the word "Art"? Don't
you think today's Art is too much connected with business?
At the risk of sounding like a WANKER, yes I would say that it be art.
But thats all rather boggy soil that Id rather leave alone
to allow greater mobility and keep free of pretence etc. In saying that,
art is the expression of exploration and comprehension of the inner
being/consciousnes at ones own peculiar point in time and space.
Art is not business, though business does use art. Art can be a great
service to the folk/community at large. It can give us glimpses of that
which is grander and luminous, we can use that as inspiration to reach
our own place in understanding and expressing the hidden mysteries of
nature and science as peculiar to our own orbit.
SOL is a term that has religious connotations, being the spear that
pierced Jesus'side at calvary. But as with all that is SOL, the truth
and complete meaning behind the name is much deeper than at first glance.
Have you read the book "The spear of destiny"?How did you
choose SOL as band's name,and what meanings and representations of the
philosophies and ideology expressed through the band is the SOL symbolic
of?
We have studied this tome which you mention and yes it was through this
primarily that we were landed with the monicker spear of longinus.
Perhaps religious is not a good term to use, as this really (to us anyhow)
denotes a lower level of spirituality, one more suited to
the mass man. Our path is more solitary and dynamik! Also more eklektik
than a religious dogmatism would allow for.
At this point we would like to point out that SOL is the morning star,
that luciferian luminosity whose number is 666. The bringer of light,
life, death, destruction, love and the new dawn
How much important is for you not to repress your"natural instincts"?
What are natural instincts? Some instincts or
traits are programmed into us, and by whom? And some expressions
of legitimate natural instincts are corrupted anyhow, so
would that make them an expression or repression? Or some other similar
sinister malfunction eternally imposed? Control and power are very nasty
little games played by most all human creatures to varying degrees of
their ability/capacities. For instance the act of thinking
does not mean that one has thought. Are natural instincts
manifestations of the programmed mechanikill automaton? In short , if
you are told something is a natural instinct, is it? And more so, please
be a little more clear to what exactly you are referring.
It's not a secret that the works of SOL relate to National Socialism,its
theories,ideologies and mystical purposes.Anyway you analise National
Socialism in a very unique and original way, that I'd like you to share
with our readers. For example you're not into racism,that seems on the
contrary to be a necessary aspect of nowadays National Socialism followers.
You see Nazism as a natural manifestation,a force that moves the universe,
with secret and occult origins. Why are you so interested in these topics?
Which are your main fonts of knowledge?How do you consider Hitler? Imagine
for a moment that Germany won the second war world, how do you think
it'll be the historical scenary after that event?
There is a parallel dimension where Hitler won the war, you should go
there to see a few ramifications, but of course there is manifestation
of every possible act already existing all you have to do is WILL it.
Try it, go there. What you have to do to get objective information is
to develop the faculties of intuition and the ability to trace back
travel a thought to the point of objectivity, this may necessitate
a form of time/space travel. Though it is primarily, internal. You are
your own worst enemy. Ignorance is a product of fear and fear is the
root of all discord and sickness in the world today. Weltschmerz = FEAR
= ignorance. Ignorance is the enemy here, the death of ignorance is
the objective of SOL. The great LIBERATION. And to do this we must rebel
psychologically.
Your second strike was "Domni Satnasi", explain the meaning
behind the title and the philosophical and ideological tenets that they're
based upon.
Really weve gone into this as much as we can without a full manuscript
or personal instruction in a previous interview which you can find on
our website, if you can find our website as weve just been deemed
offensive again, somehow. Again ignorance strikes, fear and pain. A
filthy reflection of the state of the pitiful human wretch. DOMNI SATNASI
is the ideal of being free from these inferior restrictions, the triumph
of the will! It is the first step. It is the process. It is the result.
Emancipation power freedom mastery.
At the time of "Nada brahma" you had to face problems with
authorities, as they confiscated a fair amount of SOL works. What events
led up to this,and what do you think about censorship in general? I
think it's better to fight ideas with other ideas, and not to close
with violence the mouths of people who have a different vision.
It seems that they eventually found nothing much wrong with that release
after all. Not surprising as we deliberately started taming things down
a bit then, for various reasons. Basically that was a case of guilt
by association of other materials and the DOMNI SATNASI
lp, according to the present political authorities in Germany,
though not limited to that geographical area, obviously, the plague
is everywhere. Censors should be censored! Ha Ha. Ho Ho! Censor the
censors
I say! Yet another symptom of involuting humanity,
the wise will see this and utilize the appropriate techniques to combat
the situation. Some will be external, some internal. The balance with
SOL is at present tilted towards the internal arts.
How can you describe, ideologically and philosophically, "Nada
brahma"?
NADA BRAHMA is the intricate path of the roaring rune. The mind altering
sigil. The pure path only just within reach of man. It is
internal, though all around. We have also gone into this a little more
tecknikly in the same past interview if you would like to look that
up : http://bks.ark11.net
Is it true that you're not completely satisfied with your last release,
"The yoga of National Socialism"?Anyway how this release is
born? Can you analise it both lyrically and musically?Which are the
focus and purpose of this album?
The yoga lp was an inept attempt at expanding on the processes of achieving
the point of realization of nada brahma. It was to point out the virtues
of the internal/soft approach. In doing this we found a great depth
of sorrow that also had to be dealt with. To feel sorrow is to feel
sorry is to be forgiven is to find a degree of freedom. Though it is
very interesting to see from an insiders point of a view how all the
different energies came together to dictate the end result. External
and internal. As well as eternal. Very interesting. Especially in light
of the events that have come to pass since then. Which is an important
part of the work; observe,analyse and act. COMMAND.
Do you think there is a movie who could represent the spirit of SOL?Would
you like to realise a soundtrack for a movie?How had to be this movie
to fit a SOL soundtrack?
Funnily enough one does have urges to do soundtrax and such for the
right films and there is always ideas/ambitions floating around in the
backs of ones mind to do at least a short film or two. But of
course realizing said things requires quite a bit of work, especially
when one has absolutely no background or idea how to pull it off, nevermind
the tools or contacts etc. Finances
hmm
.. I really
like mood films where nothing happens. For example Clint
Eastwood westerns. If we were to do a movie right now it would have
elements of the 9th gate, Kenneth Anger films, the
battle of the bulge, dead man not to mention the older
goth hammerhouse stuff etc. etc. of course it would have much inspiring
scenes to reflect on, hopefully to touch & awaken ones
psyche/consciousness. One things for sure, sometimes you can say
more without words than with. Then after weve conned the support
of the majors we would embark on our galactik/imperial NS space trilogy
utilizing at least the infrastructure and financing that Peter Jackson
would most likely have at his disposal at present. The technology spawned
from this would most likely lead to physical spacetime travel ala stargate
anyhow! To infinity and beyond!
Which are the hopes for the future for you both as a musician and
as man?
IO PAN the MANGOD!
Do you think that a musician has to be a "special" person
in some ways? How much is hard to translate your ideas and feelings
into music?When you compose music for SOL do you prefer to be in a particular
condition,for example all alone or something like that?
A wise man once said that all art is magik. I do admire and feel
many forms of art and musicianships etc for example Led Zeppelin, sometimes
I think it would be great to be able to play all those tunes. But at
the end of the day I think it is more important to have something to
express than to just blindly follow anothers lead (break). So
then it would be a superior course of action to find what drove them
and conduct ones own EXPERIMENTS to KNOW then express appropriately.
Obviously sometimes things come when alone or after absorbing certain
energies for a certain period of time. Then also some are the result
of a jam session and all the different energies there from other humans,
places, situations and different vibrations given from different instruments
at different times etc. It is exceedingly difficult to translate, this
an endless quest in in in in in
In more refined times the
art was religion, at least the experience was anyhow, the
shaman and his equivalents were at least on the way to being something
greater. Crossing to Avalon the bard at the least bought back something
of the superior format to encourage his bretheren/folk (not to mention
to understand himself). A strange creature indeed is the musician/warrior/bard.
How do you relate with tecnology? I have visited your web site and it's
really a good one. Also I have noticed you have a large amount of unreleased
songs listed on the web site. Will you realise them all soon or later
or they'll remain in the shadows?
Im totally useless with teknology. You should see me with my bloody
guitar even! ha ha what a joke. I can only visualise, if I actually
try and use teknology things at best only come out backwards! Minister
Kyle is to be thanked for the realisation of the website (which we are
having trouble with ignorant servers about), we just told him what,
he did the how. Hopefully those songs will be vindicated some day, though
no promises as we just seem to keep writing more of the bastards. Some
are truly ancient and are from the demon era even, its just a
question of priorities, go back and do something weve done already?
Or keep moving.
Can you describe a SOL live concert?Do you consider music the only important
thing on stage or do you prefer to give to the audience also something
on the visual side?Will you ever come to play live in Italy or is it
something impossible?
When Camazotz plays, he plays for the one shining star 777. Him the
one. The thing to consider here is, the more real or true
the musick is the thicker yet more translucent it is too.
So it should already bring much other with it. Kind of like
when you stare at a candle flame for long enough. At first it looks
harsh and hard but then as you penetrate it, it becomes increasingly
softer and more inviting, warm even. Then further still in, we find
this joyous entities elementals there. If one proceeds he
would then find HIM. Weve only played once in the last year to
an outside audience. Hopefully one will experience this thing
that comes with us, this Avalon shadow eveloping us, drawing us. Most
gigs are their own. The last one we played was laden with doom crust.
That was the tattvic energy at that time, so that is what was there.
At present we play in a really stripped back bare fashion, possibly
even hardcore if one wanted to be associated with that term.
A rebellion against all this wanky black metal posturing of late (the
land where stereotypes come to life!). Soon though I think the times
will change again and we will start doing an actual multimedia show.
Mate wed love to play Italy, there is a certain place in Mantua
that I should like to visit whilst I were there, again.
Many thanks for your time and patience, any final message to our readers?
Thank you comerade for the time and space. Only death is real. Unfortunately
you got me in a chatty phase, so not many hard facts for this little
interview bloke. But still an enjoyable experience, hope you agree.
Till we can meet for tea and meditation, take care.
Von sol doom crust. 14.
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