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WIGLEY FAMILY HISTORY |
page 5 OTTEN mystery |
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HENRY/HARRY WIGLEY
– HENRY/HARRY OTTEN II WERE THEY THE SAME
PERSON? |
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● figures
in brackets [….] are the approximate year of birth/marriage, calculated from
the immediately preceding age* ● WHITECHAPEL and ST GEORGE IN THE EAST (STEPNEY) are roughly
in the same area ● * there are always discrepancies
in the ages people state in the census returns |
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HENRY/HARRY WIGLEY |
HENRY/HARRY OTTEN II |
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BIRTH & PARENTS |
HENRY WIGLEY born 2 SEP 1857, WHITECHAPEL WORKHOUSE,
mother JANE WIGLEY, no father shownBIRTH
CERTIFICATE |
NONE IN ENGLAND & WALES BIRTHS, BUT: |
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1861 CENSUS c/o EDWARD WIGLEY II as “GRANDSON”, age
3, [1858], born WHITECHAPEL, MIDDX 1871 CENSUS still c/o EDWARD WIGLEY II (why?)
as “SON”, age 14, [1857], born ST
GEORGE IN THE EAST (STEPNEY), MIDDX When a
child is living with its grandparents, it is often because its mother is an unmarried
daughter of the family Their
daughter JANE II was born in 1839, so would have been old enough (18
years old) to be the mother: in 1851 she was at home, in St George In The East (Stepney), Middx,
in 1861 a lodger, unmarried, still in St.
George In The East (Stepney), so she was living in the right area to be
HENRY’s mother Only Edward II’s 2 eldest children plus
Jane II would have
been old enough to be the parent, and the 2 eldest children seem to have been
living in Kent when Henry was born, so it is possible that he was Jane II’s illegitimate son, born
before her marriage, the father possibly being HENRY OTTEN I, especially
if he later changed his name to Henry/Harry Otten JANE II married, sometime between
1861 and 1865, when a daughter was born, HENRY OTTEN I, and they are together in
the 1871 census, age 31 and 32 respectively – albeit without son HENRY
- he stating he is a cigar maker, born in St. George In The East (Stepney), where
they were living, not Germany; his father was definitely born in Germany;
after the 1871 census they are no longer found – either they died young, or
perhaps they also emigrated, although
no records have been found |
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according
to the 1900 USA census he was born in SEP 1861*, according to the 1910-30 census
he was born about 1860-3, always in England: his name was always given as
“HARRY” |
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CENSUS RECORDS |
1861-71 see
above 1881 “HARRY” WIGLEY, at own home, age 23 [1858], born WHITECHAPEL,
MIDDX, wife MARION 20 [1861], son HARRY EDWD 9 months [JUNE 1880] 1891 ONWARDS: not found |
1861-81 not found 1890 USA census not available 1900 “HARRY” OTTEN born SEP 1861*, England, married 21
years, 7 children of which 4 surviving, father German, wife MARRION born NOV?
1862, England, children HARRY E. born JUNE 1880, England, ALFRED C. born MAR?
1882, England, GLAD- E. born JUNE 1892, New York State, ARTHUR R. born AUGUST
1898, New York State 1910 “HARRY” OTTEN age 48, [1862], England, married 29 years, 8 children of
which 4 surviving, father German, wife MARION 45, [1865], Scotland(!), son
ARTHUR R. 11, born New York State 1920 “HARRY” OTTEN age 57?, [1863], England, father
German, wife MARRION 54, [1866], England (again!), son ARTHUR 20?,
born New York State 1930 “HARRY” OTTEN age 70, [1860], England, married age
19, father German, wife MARION 65. [1865], England, married age 16, no
children |
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MARRIAGE |
15 SEP
1879, CHRISTCHURCH, RAMSGATE, KENT, to MARION PANTRY – the certificate shows
his father as Edward Wigley, policeman, who was in fact his
grandfather |
NONE IN ENGLAND
& WALES MARRIAGES, BUT: |
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according
to the various censuses, wife MARION, married about 1879-81, Harry at age 19
[1879-82], Marion age 16 [1878-82] |
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CHILDREN |
HARRY
EDWARD WIGLEY, born Q3 1880, Bridge, Kent R/D, mother's
maiden name PantryBMD / Chartham, KentCENSUS,
baptized 18 JUL 1880, Christ Church, Dunkirk, Kent, son of Harry & Marion
WigleyCERT ALFRED
CHARLES OTTEN,
born Q2 1882, Dartford, Kent R/D, mother's maiden name PantryBMD |
HARRY EDWARD born about 1881, England ALFRED CHARLES born about 1882, England GLADYS EDYTHE,
USA ARTHUR R., USA 4 others (died young) |
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EMIGRATION |
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NEW YORK PASSENGER LISTS ARRIVAL 7 SEP 1883: HENRY
OTTEN born about 1858 MARY OTTEN born about 1859 HARRY born
about 1881 ALFRED born
about 1882 according
to the various census, he immigrated 1881-2 ● unfortunately,
UK passenger lists only start in 1890, so there is no way of knowing what
name he left with! |
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OTHER |
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in 1904,
HERBERT WILLIAM WIGLEY’s ticket to New York was paid by HIS COUSIN, HARRY
OTTEN, Albany, New York, with whom he was going to stay – if they were
cousins, they were both grandsons of Edward Wigley II |
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CONCLUSION ● SO
IT LOOKS AS THOUGH HENRY/HARRY WIGLEY: • USED HIS (LEGAL) NAME WIGLEY WHEN HE GOT MARRIED • HAD HIS 1ST SON’S BIRTH REGISTERED IN
THE NAME OF WIGLEY, BUT THE 2ND SON’S IN THE NAME OF OTTEN • CHANGED HIS NAME TO HARRY OTTEN, OR RATHER USED HIS
(PROBABLE) FATHER’S NAME, WHEN HE EMIGRATED TO THE USA, ALTHOUGH HE MIGHT
HAVE USED IT EARLIER ● EITHER
THIS WAS OF HIS OWN CHOICE, OR PERHAPS THERE WAS SOME MORE IMPORTANT REASON
…. ● THERE
WERE ALREADY OTTENS IN NEW YORK STATE, OF GERMAN
ORIGIN – POSSIBLY RELATIVES ON HIS FATHER’S SIDE, SO PERHAPS THAT INFLUENCED
HIM |
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NOTES: Roman numerals after a person’s name,
eg. RIchard
I, are purely to distinguish different
people with the same name R/D = Registration DistrIct R/O = Register OffIce (for an explanation of
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